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Discussion in 'Aqidah/Kalam' started by Sunni Jaag, Mar 6, 2021.
Brilliantly said by mufti sahib "Ye jahil bhi hai aur apni jahalat se waqif bhi nahin hai"!
Very nice speech for those who are not much familiar with the actual issue between Hazrat Ali (ra) and Hazrat Muawiya (ra).
P. S. Why are all of the UK ulema quiet? It's about time he should be openly condemned for his actions!
See this video of Mufti Fazal Chishti . He virtually belts Irfan shah and his stooges for spewing this garbage. Highly recommended to watch. Exposes his hidden rifd really.
Shocking to hear the brother of Irfani Mia spewing clear cut shia beliefs whilest pir gaali gloch and chums sit by without batting a eyelid.
I agree that if there was ever a time for Muzaffar Hussain Shah to speak up and refute then this is it, if he fails to refute these sellouts after this then I'm afraid he'll be regarded as a full of hot air sellout showman like the rest of these langar and fame junkies.
I was hoping Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah would have said something by now but have gone quiet.
The list is growing by the day. At this rate all of shiat will be doing ruju
one more example
I believe it's a combination of actual rafizis in the audience, staunch ignorant mureeds (like our prime example Nabeel), and the odd few on payroll to chant the loudest of naras!
Also not to forget the people who love going to watch tamashas, after all Irfan Shah had promised everyone the fun in doing tamashas!
but then, why are those suave people making themselves comfortable in the chairs - why aren't they leaving?
could it be that they were paid to sit a spell until the shia hyms would start - and only then disperse ..
only a few weeks ago irfan shah was sitting on a 10m trojan horse preaching against takfir...
Sorry I got that wrong about father in law, Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah's daughter is married to Shah Sahib's son as brothers have pointed out. It does leave Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah in an awkward situation, especially as there have been murmurings of other family members being scared to speak out against Shah Sahib. I mentioned before that syed Naveed ul Hasan falls into this category.
To be honest @Noori, I don't think Shah Sahib has revealed his true 'aqida' but rather has sold out. This may be a combination with personal issues Jalali sahib or under presssure from some uncouth characters. You can discern from his ramblings, he is trying to muddy waters, which is a far cry from his earlier crisp but if rather harsh speeches.
Like @Ghulam Ali said, we hope he comes back to the fold. The damming reality is that these scholars don't seem interested in 'islaah' but rather just want to bash each other, and we as the layperson get caught in the crossfire. These issues can easily be dealt with behind closed doors, if people actually want to resolve them.
It is going to lead the layperson to turn away from scholars, which is then going to perpetuate the intellectual malaise and spiritual corruption. May Allah most High guide us and keep us steadfast on the haq. Ameen.
in this speech irfan shah praises riyaz hissain tafzili's face, honestly speaking I have seen him long before in person when ha had not revealed his tafziliyat, and looking at his face - the beared never fit on his face and he always appeared an ugly guy to me, I also never liked his personal show off style, and now there is no noor on his face.
it is most likely the first case, same like riyaz hussain tafzili, hussain ahmed madani etc, they gathered sunni masses around them, and when they were sure that their mureeds won't turn away and would always take them as true ahlussunah, they started showing their true faces.
I’d say they’ve shot themselves in both feet.
Still time to snap out of it. Guidance is from Allah Ta’ala.
Isn't Muzaffar Hussain Shah the father in-law of the son of pir ragre pe ragra?
Sunnis Alhamdulillah are turning away from him. See this video of how his recent mehfil was.
Their camera typically points only to the stage so we don't tend to get a clear picture. I am sure those 'uninterested' people may have just gone there for the free Langar!
Our good friend Sh Nabeel would say, he has snookered himself there but Shah Sahib has the ijaza to move the goalposts wherever he wants.
This particular fatwa is the effect of linking up with Syed Riaz Shah, who had already spoken against the nara previously.
It leaves Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah in a difficult spot now... does he take the fatwa on the chin or speak out against his father in law.
Inadvertently, I think Shah Sahib might end up causing greater unity in the ranks of the sunnis, which obviously will go against the remit he has been given.
Refutation of Irfan Shah's latest kufr fatwa. He is continuously making a fool out of himself!
A single rotten fruit next to good ones causes them to start to rot as well. This is the example of Irfan Shah, instead of distancing himself from these tafdhilis and rafdis he has embraced them.
Ala Hazrat has given a good example in his malfuzat of Imran bin Khatan Raqqashi who used to be a great alim and hadith master. Unfortunately he married his deviant cousin which disturbed the ulema. He said to them that he married her so that he may rectify her but after a year he too became a deviant.
I am pretty sure Irfan Shah has a lot of rishtedari with rafdis and this is the poison that is spreading in him.
In that conference there was other shocking statements. One individual who I've seen in a lot of Shah Sahib's gathering is a PMLN member. He said Salman Taseer was not a gustakh himself but he supported a gustakh, so his point is Dr Jalali Sahib is worse than Salman Taseer (Astagfirullah).
This is where the hatred of Jalali sahib has taken them