Irfan Shah using fabricated hadith to prove his tafdili aqidah

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    "lion's den"
    the poor guy doesn't realise he is praising irfan shah.
     
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  2. Muhammad Husnain

    Muhammad Husnain New Member

  3. Muhammad Husnain

    Muhammad Husnain New Member


    Irfan Shah Mashhadi has changed his beliefs from Sunni to Shi’ah by attacking the unanimously agreed upon Sunni creed on the absolute superiority of Sayyiduna Abu Bakr Siddiq رضي الله تعالى عنه and by insulting the Noble Companions عليهم الرضوان
     
  4. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Qari Tayyib and Mawlana Sabir Ali refute Irfan about this forged report.

     
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  5. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Sayyid Zulfiqar Shah says Isa b. Maniy is shiyi and he also said the hadith is mawdu.

    Update: some Sunni scholars have messaged to say Isa b. Maniy is Sunni.

     
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2023
  6. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    Yes, Mufti Zahid Jalali sahib had highlighted the same in his video on this thread.

    All apparent Sunnis that still support Irfan Shah should be boycotted as well. Their aqidah is also questionable and are most likely in Sunni disguise as Irfan's heresies are quite open in the public now.
     
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  7. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Veteran

    Irfan Shah contradicting himself:



    Dividing wilayat into nahj al wilayat and nahj al nabuwwat
     
  8. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Veteran

    More subterfuge from Irfan Shah aka Iran Shah Khomeini:



    - note this video has the son of Janab Pir Karam Shah of Bhera whom he always cursed at
     
  9. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Irfan Shah wrote an attestation to Qari Tayyib's book in 2018. Lol.

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  10. Ali_Bash

    Ali_Bash Active Member

    Same
    Same all i could find was Imām Dāraquṭnī narrated from him as stated by Khaṭīb and we know Ibn Adi also narrated from him in him al-Kamil fi Ḍuʿafā and said he used fabricate upon the Ahlul-Bayt of Rasūlullāh ﷺ, @abu Hasan is possible that this narration came via the way of his son ʿAbdullāh bin Aḥmad?
     
  11. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    so "tanchbatwi" is abdul qadir shah. absolutely inaccurate and mountain of lies and mistakes - and only in a gathering of sheep can such illiterate maulvi-numa juhhal can be considered 'mufakkir e islam.'

    we have demonstrated for years how cringe-worthy and pathetic his 'research' is. i remember a video from the 90s when irfan shah was roaring and shaming others for "sitting in the laps of closet rafizis". what a tragic fall.

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    abdul qadir and irfan shah will not live for 200 years. if they will be remembered after their death, it will be for causing fitna - unless they repent. and may not even be a footnote in history.
     
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  12. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    lol he started with gaalis to Ashraf Jalali, realizes he can't make such qadhf at the parents of the so many people (Sayyids included) catching him out on his shameless lies, so he starts with the blackmail of 'i'm your daddy's age and y'all're refuting me?!'

    *** AbdalQadir waits for iran shah to narrate a fantastic dream
     
  13. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Sayyid Zulfiqar Shah says the narration isn't by Imam Ahmad and then sets a date of 1st February for an online debate.

     
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  14. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Mufti Zahid Jalali accepts Irfan Shah's offer to discuss the issues.

     
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  15. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    #1130.
     
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  16. Ali_Bash

    Ali_Bash Active Member

    Asalam Alaikum

    I dont think he can get away from this one as he is literally using it as proof to prove the superiority of ʿAlī رضي الله عنه by saying Rasūlullāh ﷺ and ʿAlī are from the same Nūr where as Hahrat Abū Bakr رضي الله عنه is only Human. I believe the narration he is referring to can be found in Imām Aḥmad's Faḍāʿīl al-ṣaḥābah.
     
  17. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    this may be me being pedantic and over analyzing, but i think he's trying to play on some legal & linguistic nuances here to leave an escape path

    watch the video carefully and he says "mere paas hadith hai. imam Ahmad bin Hanbal ne likhi..."

    and again "aur yeh imam Ahmad bin Hanbal ne likha hai"; and like a rafidi that he has become, he adds "Sunniyon ki kitab hai, hadith ki kitab hai, mein hawala arz kar raha hun"

    he doesn't say imam Ahmad ne hadith riwayat ki, or naqal ki

    it's very clever; and very stupid to say "likhi"

    clever coz if someone takes him up on it, he will just say, 'i never claimed it sahih, listen to my words again, i said likhi, and likhi Ahmad bin Hanbal did..."

    stupid for the obvious reason that he (Imam Ahmad) like many other muhadditheen have always pointed out to mawdu3 riwayat

    that's as dumb as if abu Hasan cites zameel to criticize him and someone showcases it with implications of an endorsement, and then cleverly says - abu Hasan ne likha hai, Sunniport ka hawala arz kar raha hun! however, if you catch him out, he can easily say, 'i never said it was abu Hasan's own opinion, i just said he wrote it (citing zameel)'

    if iran shah still believes in judgment day, he should know he can't outsmart his Lord!
     
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  18. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    He says 'there is no question of afzaliyyat and bashariyyat. I'm happy with you saying Abu Bakr is afzal ul bashar because the history of Ali doesn't even begin with bashariyyat!'

    He's clearly implying Mawla Ali is afzal to Siddiq but you can still call Siddiq afzal ul bashar because Ali comes before bashariyyat anyway.

    Implying, yes. Closet shiah are always cunning enough not to say things outright and explicitly. Just imply and infer and carry on.

     
  19. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    irfan shah has gone mad. in his madness - he doesn't even know what he is quoting - he is just regurgitating what the shiyi/rawafid minions are handing him out.

    i don't think irfan shah has the ability to even read now - perhaps someone should remind him of a man named bal'am baauraa and what happened to him.

    nas'alu Allah al-aafiyah.

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    this is the difference between deobandis and barelwis. those who get knowledge from the madrasah of imam ahmad raza will not hestitate to throw away someone who was considered a leader, if he steps out of ahlus sunnah. zero tolerance.
     
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2023
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  20. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Tuhfah.

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