Jurjis on contemporary Qadris

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  1. Afzal Sheikh

    Afzal Sheikh New Member

    Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gilani (رَحْمَۃُ اللہِ تَعَالٰی عَلَیْہِ) has been famous for centuries as the most popular and revered Saint of Islam.
  2. Aqdas

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  3. Adham12

    Adham12 Active Member

    Time 11:04 – 11:46

    In parenthesis are my notes.

    “Further to this, the people that claim that their Qadris, as Ive said, the only two people that have any valid chains to him they’re both muqtassal (sorry if I spelled it wrong) which means they’re interrupted. There’s no direct chain from any non Hanbalis that are claiming this tariqa, there’s no direct chain back to Shaykh Abdul Qadri Jilani. Any teaching Sanad at all, it’s baatil!

    And I’ve challenged and I repeat the challenge again because I’d love to be you know shown something on this, but for someone to show me these connections because they don’t exist. We know he didn’t meet Abu Majyum (sorry if I spelled it wrong) because Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani rahimallullah didn’t go to North Africa. And people met him but he didn’t give them khilafa. The people he gave khilafa to like Imam al Ulfi and others, we know their names, we know who they are…"

    Time: 9 sec onwards

    “ If you claim you are Qadris, well we have to check your chain. So, we got to ask you, do you drink tea and coffee? Do you cover head as a wajib during most waking hours? Do you sleep on the floor? Do you avoid eating meat except for once every two days? You don’t eat meat two days in a row, and these are all things that can be found in the sunan. And the consistent fatwas of those Qadris you don’t drink milk, you don’t drink tea, and you don’t drink coffee.

    It’s makrooh e tanzihi, don’t drink it. This is their position. Want to be a Qadri, start considering water, juices, milkshakes, smoothies, but leave tea and coffee out of it because they’ve got nothing to do with it. You want to follow those people, SubhanAllah, that’ll put gray in your beard, for a surety."

    Can any learned brothers expound on what he said? I’ve asked a Qadri for clarification but could not provide a sufficient answer.

    Last edited: May 6, 2020

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