la madhabiyyah vs Barelvis, Who forms the bigger threat to Shariah

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    looking at history of the past 100 years,* one can safely conclude that:
    almost all the terrorist organisations in the world using muslim names sprouted from la madh'habiyyah ideology.

    la madh'habiyyah = anarchy.

    *you can go back 200 years to shaykh najdi's time. it is the same thing. back then, instead of a firm steel chain, the wahabi leaders held to orthodox islam by a rough rope. nowadays, they connect only with fine silk threads.
  2. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    did you read that book by shaykh buti?

    if you cannot read arabic, you can buy an english translation here. (yes, they are the same guys who made a DMCA complaint against us and took us down for a PDF of that book posted on our site by a user).

    whose answers are these that you want us to choose? don't you have a NOTA option?
    why don't you read sh. buti's book? sunnipubs will be delighted to have a customer.

  3. Layman

    Layman Banned

    Brother its not about choosing. Its just a discussion on the subject.

    I dont envisage changing sects. Shaykh Asrar says we need to go solo to an extent, not blindfollow. That is why i'm free thinking

    Do you have any honest reflections on topic?
  4. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    Let's say la madhabiyyah are not the biggest threat, tahir ul qadri is in our time; so, would you choose la madhabiyyah over ASWJ?
  5. Layman

    Layman Banned

    Brothers, so the answer is la madhabiyyah are a bigger threat because.....
    1) they have rejected well researched positions?
    2) they formed a new sect so they are ahul bidah anyway, nothing that comes from them is good?
    3) they dont even talk about shariah?
    4) What they call to is not shariah?

    Or are you saying the question is out of question and anybody who dares ask it is going to be consumed

    Please brothers no fitna, Shaykh Ramadan Buti is quoted as saying la madhabiyyah are biggest threat to Shariah...hence it'd be nice to know how
  6. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    Shaykh sa'di says

    خشت اول چوں نہد معمار کج
    تا ثریا مے رود دیوار کج

    If a builder lays the first brick bent
    then the entire wall will rise slanted to the skies.

    So dear layman you need to lay your first stone, to build up your knowledge, straight.
  7. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    only your free thinking without basic/proper knowlege and adab, and that too only for your self.
  8. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    of-course, this is not a bait.

    so brothers, don't misunderstand layman and jump the gun - he has our best interests at heart. after-all he is a self-avowed barelvi, so that's that. can't mean nothing evil.

    go ahead hazart, please propound to us your profound observations and confound our senses with your extraordinarily lay genius.

    me neither but cornish fairings taste rather good. ever tasted one? just asking...

    *grand post script.
  9. Layman

    Layman Banned

    As Salamu Alaikum

    With regards to a claim that Abandoning the madhabs is the biggest bid'a threatening the Sharia, I do not know how other Ahlus Sunnah communities are fairing but I do not regard my own community as being particularly interested in Shariah so the question is justified

    Who forms the bigger threat?
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