Mother's day Takbeer TV

Discussion in 'Events' started by Madani, Mar 31, 2010.

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  1. Madani

    Madani Active Member

    I think she is having a go at maulana ilyas Qadri because he doesnt go to disney land like a true sheikh e kamil and sultan e awliya should.
  2. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    The ruling on still pictures in permanent storage (on paper/canvas) is different to them being on electronic format and that is different from the ruling on motion pictures, and there are quite a few opinions within Sunnis themselves.

    This is further compounded by the fact that in case of necessities, like security clearance and passports and id's the rulings are different.

    If his murids became proud of something, that is not his fault.

    On his part, it is nothing but shear humility to go back on his own positions. In our times, when "scholars" can't dare to go back on their words and change and retract their "scholarly" positions out of ego concerns, what Sheikh Ilyas did is nothing but purely a practice of the pious elders, where Umar radi Allahu 'anhu got up on the mimbar to admit he had been mistaken and was corrected by a lady, where Ali, the lion of Allah, humbly retracted a position when further information was presented to him, where people like Abu Hanifa and Ash-Shafie radi Allahu 'anhumaa changed their positions on matters.

    His ways are nothing but a slap in the face, to many arrogant half scholars who have too huge an ego to go back on their erroneous positions and 100% in accordance to the practice of the pious elders
  3. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    zulfiqar. Syed irfan shah does give dhaleel and has challenged these shia and debated them in the past. Rather than attacking a sunni lion on this website would it be better for you to show us what your sayyid abdul qadir shah sahib and zahid shah have done in refuting shias. Infact they have done damage to sunnis by showing their beliefs on the afzaliat issue . What are their beliefs on The wives of rasulullah sallallaho alaihi wa alahi wasalam been part of the ahle bayt.
  4. sobia

    sobia New Member

    Considering Dr Digital Malik is giving free time, or as they call it made it waqf between the allotted period to tell me what business or financial handling is going on?
  5. sobia

    sobia New Member

    Not many years ago, my mithe mithe islami bhai use to be proud that moulana ilyas sahib didn't have a passport picture let alone deeming tv haram. You find the inaccurcies not my job, please i did not claim the rank of mujadid merely asked for the criteria myself no need to get hot headed i apologise if your sentiments are hurt.
  6. zulfiqar hussain

    zulfiqar hussain New Member

    ottomanhanfi so why did Syed Irfan Shah not accept the Shias Challenge?He challenged Shah Sahib by name on their tv.The shias barks only stopped when Allama Baig Sahib refuted them and accepted their challenge,like I said debates are never won with swearing and calling names.There is no need to debate a Shia on History,debate them within Quran and Hadith and the two personalities who will destroy them within a few minutes are Muffakar e Islam Pir Syed Abdul Qadar Shah Jilani and Syed Zahid Hussain Shah Razvi.Check their Libraries and Knowledge you will faint for a month.
  7. ottomanhanafi

    ottomanhanafi Active Member

    I think the best man to tackle the shia fitna is Syed Irfan Shah, he knows their books inside out. Re Allama Nisar sorry but whenever i've seen him confronted by the shias he's always been shown up so i wouldn't be too keen on backing him against them.

    Re Moulana Ilyas, unlike other shuyukh, he simply will not compromise the sharia. When i said he is humble i have yet to see a sunni shaykh stop people from reading verses in his praise. I saw this with my own eyes live a few weeks ago when he outlined the etiquette of prasing someone. Re the TV issue he has never professed to be a mufti to my knowledge and has always maintained he will follow the 'ulama hence why he finally gave Madni the go ahead. Here's a clip from 2005 when Mufti Akmal Attari makes reference to the DI 'ulama accepting TV is jaiz:
  8. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    he is still a notch humbler than you with your arrogant, sarcastic "LOL"s

    why don't you enlighten everyone else since you know who is and isn't a mujaddid, considering you're nabbing ottomanhanafi for his calling someone a mujaddid

    whether you used the correct punctuation mark after that phrase or not, it's just a bit rich and ironic coming from you

    he still does, and on his own tv channel.

    you just need to educate yourself about what he says and acquaint yourself with a little something called "context"

    to make it simple for you, before too, he used to call political debates, women reading news without SHAR'IY purdah, advertising etc as haram, and he still does.

    he has openly said on his own tv channel that if the authorities ever ask them to show women or resort to any haram activity (such as most adverts), they will return their license and go without tv

    please do share the stories. its better than the rest of your unjustified sarcastic comment and mashallah

    masha Allah!

    how is it playing pir politics when DI has the policy and 'agenda' of not criticising any personalities and names? they just talk about what is right according to the principles of the shari'a and what is not, without involving with personalities

    or does that too hit a few raw nerves with people like you?

    btw, it's mujaddid there's no 'a' sound, and the plural is mujaddideen, mujaddidain is dual only (and it's "you're going too far" but that's me going a bit too far)
  9. Madani

    Madani Active Member

    whats so funny? can u give a reference in which he states TV is Haram? what is wrong in waving flags? could you please give the criteria of being a mujaddid? and also an explanation into what pir politics are being played by Hazrat Maulana Ilyas Qadri?

  10. SA01

    SA01 Veteran

    Brother, the Ulema of the Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaat do not BELONG to me or anyone else...we do not own them. They are there for guidance and in my eyes are blessings for ALL.

    Please, I urge everyone on here not to make statements that create a Them and Us divide.....the Ummah is already in a sorry state and we do not need to add fuel to the fire.

  11. zulfiqar hussain

    zulfiqar hussain New Member

    Wasn't Takbeer Tv set up to take on Shias?

    I'm not attacking any Molvies but just pointing out the damage your so called personalities are doing to Ahle Sunnat
  12. SA01

    SA01 Veteran

    Can we please refrain from attacking personalities; it's really not befitting of true Muslims.

    Wasn't this thread about a Takbeer TV broadcast anyway?
  13. zulfiqar hussain

    zulfiqar hussain New Member

    Just want to make one point,Recently there have been a lot of rants and attacks from Shias towards Ahle Sunnat Jamaat believes.The Shias even challenged Sunni Ulema on their Channels but the response from certain Sunni Ulema was very poor,until Allama Baig Sahib intervened through Sunni tv and accepted their challenge and threatened to expose them,the Shias quickly backtracked and have stopped insulting the Khulfa e Rashadeen and Sahaba E Karaam.
    My point is people like Syed Irfan Shah should stop making statments against Shias if he can't back them up with Dalails and accept their challenge.
    I believe their is only one Channel capable of defending Ahle Sunnat Jamaat and destroying any Batil Aqeeda and that is Sunni Tv Hazarat Muffakar e Islam Pir Syed Abdul Qadar Shah Sahib Jilani.
    Munazaras/Debates are never won with abusive and insulting Language it's won with Dalails.
    I know most people on this Website are against Muffakar E Islam but i can assure you Guys most Sunni Molvies are not even fit enough to tie Shah Sahibs Shoe Laces,let alone doing a debate with Shias.
  14. Muhammadi

    Muhammadi Well-Known Member

    Business as in a contract between two parties; not financial mishandling and exploitation as in this.
  15. sobia

    sobia New Member

    Thank you :rolleyes:
  16. ottomanhanafi

    ottomanhanafi Active Member

    i too find the flag waving cheesy at times but the ultimate standard is the sharia and in this regard as far as i'm aware theres nothing wrong with waving flags. To me he presents the true face of tasawuf in that adherence to the shariat isn't detached from tariqat . Whats the hadith about reviving a sunna in the time of fitna, this in itself is evidence of the work moulana ilyas has achieved tho i do appreciate people find their approach too extreme with there being no women and other anti-shari aspect to their broadcast.
  17. Muhammadi

    Muhammadi Well-Known Member

    It's nothing to do with "kindness"; simply business. Sunni TV pays for its time just like the rest.
  18. sobia

    sobia New Member

    Lets not talk about DM digitals kindness of allowing Sunni Tv a slot. LOL
  19. sobia

    sobia New Member

    LOL mujadadain? your going a bit far ain't you brother? "by far the most humble shaykh"

    Can someone briefly outline what is the criteria of a mujadid? lets not start chucking trash? noor tv, is not the only tv channel that focuses on its peer sahib, so does punjjab tv (dawate islami channel) considering the peer sahib you classify as a mujadid was only a few years back calling tv haram, and is now constantly on the channel waving flags and simliar stories that I rather not talk about, as I do not wish to provoke your sentiments. Indeed great mujadadian achievement. mashallah.. Nothing personal just hate it when people niggerdly promote their own agendas and play the game of pir politics. Its sick
  20. ottomanhanafi

    ottomanhanafi Active Member

    that was an awesome speech, very similar in essence to what Mufti Akmal said in the speech i posted. I suppose a lot of our Peer hadraat are guilty of this in that they present this very soft image of sufism. Even Peer Siddiqui recently hosted Hazel Blears at a ceremony fairly recently and if memory serves me wasn't she also paraded in Bhera Sharif. Ajeeb times indeed.

    How any Sunni can have anything negative to say about Maulana Ilyas Qadri is beyond me, he is by far the most humble shaykh out there. I think it's only Noor who overly focus on their Peer but in my opinion Maulana Ilyas is amongst the mujadideen of this era. How many Peer have achieved anywhere near him. By this i mean brothers who embody the sunnah and sisters who learnt what true hayaa is. It's the only sunni channel you can watch in the knowledge that is safe for family viewing 24/7.

    Whats happened to DM sunni, wasn't on y'day.

    Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated to Dawate Islami

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