Mufti Muhammad Hanif Quraishi exclaims slogans at Mufakkir-e-Islam's Istidlal

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  1. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    i have deleted abu nasr and tpwchm's [the person who calls himself muhammadi] posts because we have talked about tafdil before.

    now, we shall only deliver the sunni hukm. i repeat:

     
  2. well said aqdas bhai.
     
  3. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    there is something majorly wrong with this. tafdilis are ahlu'l bid'ah and these people are saying: "no, there is nothing wrong with their beliefs; they are still ahlu's sunnah."

    ahlu'l bid'ah cannot be ahlu's sunnah and vice versa.

    sunnis! this is what alaHazrat said about tafdil. we must decide whether we are with alaHazrat and all our other akabir or not.

    there is only one opinion amongst ahlu's sunnah on this: abu bakr radiyAllahu 'anhu is afDal and whoever says ali radiyAllahu 'anhu is afDal is an innovator and out of ahlu's sunnah.
     
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  4. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    perhaps, this is not the right time to bring up this issue, but shah sahib's routine mistakes in citation and derivations would make anything he writes suspicious - from maqalat of ash'ari to the ruwwat of bukhari and other issues. i would not take anything shah sahib says unless i verify it myself.

    i was writing something on a clip posted here, and the implications of his statements (along with erroneous inferences, selective quoting, as can be expected), but was sidetracked to another issue. we will inshaAllah discuss this later.

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    Allah ta'ala knows best.
     
  5. Muhammadi

    Muhammadi Well-Known Member

    Yes though not tafdil-e-shaikhain [radiyAllahu 'anhuma].

    There is nothing wrong with this.
     
  6. Muhammadi

    Muhammadi Well-Known Member

    No, these are two different accounts. I'm sure the administrator can confirm the different IP addresses.

    ahl at-tashayyu' are ahl al-bid'ah just as khawarij and nawasib.

    Seemingly, though not surprisingly, you have missed the point. Shah Ji's istidlal was from the example of our Master Abu Bakr Siddiq [Allah be well pleased with him] during the battle of alYamamah wherein he designed a differentia between Muslims and non-Muslims in the shape of a slogan as mentioned by ibn kathir in "alBidayah wa anNihayah".

    I'm sure ahl at-tashayyu' would never consider any istidlal with Hadrat Siddiq-e-Akbar as its mustadal bihi. fafham.

    Listen to the complete istidlal here from 08:45 onwards and form an educated judgement rather than mere speculation.

    Correct indeed. Moreover, his valuable contributions will not be forgotten towards Shah Ji's masterpiece on tafdil by acquiring many books for Shah Ji.
     
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  7. Abu al-Nasr

    Abu al-Nasr Guest

    Is Muhammadi and Abu Fadl the same account? Sorry, I notice one account answer on behalf of the other, so I thought I would ask.

    Even Shi'a say that slogan, or are only Wahabis Ahl u'l Bid'a? I am not sure if that Istidlal works for all Ahl u'l Bid'a.

    Abu Fadl (or Muhammadi?) is correct, Mufti Hanif has immense love and respect for Shah Ji.

    He also has good relations with one of the people Sayyid 'Irfan Shah debated against on the Munazara about our master Mu'awiya (Allah be well pleased with him).

    Allah knows best
     
  8. Abu Fadl

    Abu Fadl Banned

    I cannot answer the question but I know that he has immense love and respect for Shaikh Syed Abdul Qadir Jilani Sahib. A brother who is close to Mufti Sahib from Pakistan told me how he visits Syed Jilani Sahib when Syed Sahib is in Pakistan and attends many of the lectures.

    The brother mentioned that Syed Jilani Sahib helped him prepare for a munazra against some wahabi.
     
  9. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    does mufti hanif quraishi deny the ijma' on tafdil al-shaykhayn too?
     
  10. Muhammadi

    Muhammadi Well-Known Member

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z-aGp0j4Yw

    Sher-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat Mufti Muhammad Hanif Quraishi exclaims slogans upon a beautiful istidlal by Mufakkir-e-Islam Hadrat 'Allamah Dr. Pir Sayyid 'Abdul Qadir Shah Sahib Jilani.

    This event took place at the annual Sunni Conference that occurred on the 09-03-2008 in Rawalpindi, Pakistan and was organised by Jama'at-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat, Pakistan.
     
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