Mawlana Aqdas have you seen the photos of Mufakkir e Islam Allama Azmi with Sajid Hashmi tonight at the event hosted by Umar Hayat. Sajid was sat with Dr Tahir yesterday and Umar is a character and a half. Asim MBE is also sat there. Will you condemn Allama Azmi?
Can you give a reference for this? He has said business transactions are allowed with hindus too, basically anyone other than murtads (if one can help it), afaik.
The person in the video says that the boycott entailed in Maslak e Ala Hazrat doesn't pertain to business transactions. He should read the Fatawa of Ala Hazrat where he writes that business dealings with Wahhabis and Deobandis are strictly haram.
Tell me who's sat with devbandis like this and I'll condemn it. Second, tell them Aqdas isn't a molwi like you. It's your job to condemn public haram. Especially when asked.
Salam. Shaykh Abu Hasan sahab please can you tell us what opinion we should be having of mufti muneeb ur rahman sahab: mistaken, deviance, kufr? There are some ulama who have placed very strict hukm on him but there are also ulama who are still supporting him such as allama muzaffar hussain shah sahab. Should we remain quite or have an opinion? I want to especially get you input on the hukm because you are quite balanced ma sha Allah. jazak Allahu khaira
This is the problem. Conflation and apples and oranges. First, what Mufti sahib did was in public. Second, we didn't ask or force him to do it. Third, he's happy to have it recorded. So when Mufti sahib does all this by his own volition, it's not a problem. But when someone responds to it, it becomes a problem. This is the pot calling the kettle black. الٹا چور کوتوال کو ڈانٹے So a robber breaks and enters. Steals the crown jewels. When he's caught, the police are blamed for catching him! It's just an example, I'm not calling Mufti sahib a robber. But he has done wrong, yes. --- He's gone to a devbandi graduation and made duas that those devbandis keep firm on the beliefs of their elders. First, it's not allowed to attend a devbandi event. They are heretics and the shariah strictly commands heretics to be shunned. Second, it's not a necessity. You could argue Gaza was but this wasn't for Gaza or anything common. It was a purely personal and "religious" event. Third, and very serious, he made dua. Whereas the devbandi akabirin (sic) were insulters of RasulAllah ﷺ and therefore, kafirs and murtadds. Mufti sahib is praising blasphemers! Asharrfiyli Thanwi, Gangohi and Anbethwi were ruled kafirs by thirty-three muftis of Makkah and Madinah. Yet Mufti sahib is praising their aqidah. I am calling on Muhammad Rizvi and other UK ulama to address this. Happy to speak publicly.
Taqi Usmani is a hardened devbandi and has absolutely nothing, zilch, to do with Sunnis. Who cares if his grandson graduated? No Sunni does. What's it to us? A devbandi graduate is no benefit to Islam because he calls towards his false beliefs. Taqi and his acolytes need to reject the passages in which their elders insulted RasulAllah ﷺ. First prove your allegiance to the master ﷺ and then we'll see. We condemn anyone who treats these seasoned devbandis as Sunni.
The default ruling concerning people who are not Sunni is that it is strictly prohibited to associate with them. Anything else would be an exception to the rule and would have to have a valid justification for detracting from the norm. So if you go against the default position, it is not us but rather you upon whom the onus lies to come out and clarify. Deobandis are not Sunni. This is by definition. Therefore, it is haram, haram, ashadd haram to associate with them. Hence, if a scholar known as Sunni normalises relations with them, and worse still, their leaders; this would be against the shariah. To speak favourably of deobandis as you would for Sunnis and to pray for them and their tradition is direct opposition to the way of RasulAllah ﷺ. We reject any scholar who does this and he is absolutely and unequivocally not a representative of Ahl al-Sunnah in this issue. We condemn any person known as a responsible Sunni for praising the deobandi tradition. Deobandism is antithetical to true Islam and a branch of wahabism.
“If you’re not someone who is envied or hated, then know that you are a failure.” – Imam al-Shaʿrānī (rahimahullah) This is the reality of those who stand for the truth — they will be hated, envied, and opposed. And that’s exactly why people hate on Imam Ahmad Rida Khan. They slander him, label him “takfiri,” and mock the Barelwi movement. Why? Because it succeeded. Because it disrupted. Because it hit where it hurt. You don’t attack what poses no threat. You attack what exposes you. You envy what you can’t refute. And the Deobandis know very well that Barelwis are the ones who have systematically and thoroughly refuted their elders and their heresies. That’s why the Barelwis are always the target. It’s not because they’re extreme. It’s because they’re effective. Now let’s be very clear: refuting Deobandi deviation is not an exclusive Barelwi responsibility. It’s an obligation upon all Ahlus Sunnah. Whether you call yourself Barelwi or not, if you recognize the danger Deobandi ideology poses, then you are responsible for exposing it. This is not a sectarian thing. It’s a matter of haqq and batil. The idea that “only Barelwis should be doing this” is completely false. This is a fitnah affecting the entire ummah, especially those who are not from the Barelwi tradition. Because those people — the “just Sunni” types, the ones raised in generic Sufi or Shafi’i homes, the ones under Arab ʿulama who don’t know the Indo-Pak context — they are the ones most vulnerable. Barelwis are the least at risk. Why? Because they already know the fitnah. They already have the tools. They’ve read Husam al-Haramayn. They’ve read the fatāwā. They’ve been taught to recognize the danger. But the average Sunni who isn’t from the Barelwi tradition? He’s wide open. He’s the one who thinks Deobandis are just “another school.” He’s the one who might marry into them, study under them, or start promoting them without even realizing what they stand for. So if you’re doing this work — if you’re refuting Deobandi beliefs — then you’re not doing it for Barelwis. You’re doing it for those Sunnis outside this tradition who actually need the warning. So stop saying Barelwis are “falling behind.” They’re not the ones who are being tricked. They’re not the ones sitting under Deobandi teachers. They’re not the ones platforming them in Sunni circles. They’re not the ones silent about their kufr. If anything, they’re the ones still holding the line. Now, yes — it might look like Barelwis are falling behind in terms of media reach, institutional presence, or polished PR. But you can’t blame them for that either. That’s history. That’s politics. The Deobandis have long been backed by massive resources — especially from Saudi and Wahhabi donors. They’ve built seminaries across continents. They’ve exported their ideology globally. Their propaganda machine is well-oiled and well-funded. Barelwis have had no such support. In fact, they’ve been obstructed every step of the way. And yet, despite all that, they still produced the best refutations of Deobandis. The same content that even you — yes, you — were sharing on your Telegram channel? Where did it come from? From Barelwi scholarship. From the legacy of Ala Hazrat and his students. Let’s not kid ourselves: the only reason this conversation about Deobandis even exists today is because Barelwis never let the issue die. They kept the record alive. They held the line when everyone else stayed silent. So now, let’s talk about you. You used to run a Telegram channel refuting Deobandis. You were doing important work. People benefitted. And that’s good. But then — you took it all down. Why? Because Barelwis didn’t appreciate you enough? Because you didn’t get enough recognition? Because you felt slighted? Let’s be real: if it was really for Allah, if the refutations were truly for the sake of exposing batil — you would have left them up. They would’ve continued helping people even if you stepped away. Taking it down makes it look like the work was tied to your ego. That you were doing it for a group — or more accurately, against a group — and not for Allah. I’m not judging your heart. That’s between you and Allah. But the signs point otherwise. And that needs to be said. You say you’re not Barelwi? Fine. No one asked you to be. But don’t act like you were some neutral refuter doing us a favor. You weren’t working for Barelwis. You were standing for truth — or at least, that’s what it should’ve been. And if that was really your mission, then your obligation didn’t end when the appreciation stopped. It doesn’t matter who clapped or didn’t clap. The truth deserves to be spoken — with or without praise. You left the battlefield and now want to critique the ones still on it? That’s not how this works. Let’s also not forget this: Shayṭān doesn’t waste his energy on those already off the path. He focuses on those who are close to the truth. That’s why Barelwis face so many obstacles. That’s why their growth has been slower. A thief doesn’t break into an empty house — he breaks into a house that has treasure. So don’t interpret hardship as failure. The very resistance Barelwis face is proof that they’re on the path of Haqq.
Muneeb Sahib met Deobandi Shaykh ul Islam in Korangi and Barelwi Shaykh ul Islam meets Obaidullah Azmi in Madani Maskan in Gujrat https://youtube.com/shorts/NdIOzaAgJgw?si=wfaiUQT_LgqCOcNj
Will Mufakkir Azmi and Hafiz Arshad Misbahi chuck makkhi away now? https://www.facebook.com/share/v/12Hfn7MEweQ/
muneeb sb doesn't know that sunnis are raised on the barakah of imam ahmad rida and his wasiyyah. anyone who wants to befriend those who praise blasphemers - even after knowing everything: doodh say makkhi ki tarah nikal kay phenkdo.
Just one example... why is a sunni institution teaching a book of a deo, a hardcore one who called your Imam Ahmad Rida Khan a takfiri and who transletd Taqwiyatul Imaan into Arabic? Markaz up Islami also mentioned Darul Uloom Deoband int their promo video so ive heard. Barelvis need to catch up, theyre falling behind badly
