Navigating Differences: Clarifying Sexual Identity in Islam

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  1. Khanah

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    It seems that Daniel mostly has a problem with:

    1. A previous statement
    2. The signatories to the current statement
    3. The concept of affirming the constitution in the current statement

    Whilst 1 and 2 are fine, I don't think they concern the content of the current statement as published. And no.3 seems to be a misreading of the current text which states they recognise that the lgbt community has constitutional rights - acknowledging the existence of a fact of law isn't affirming whether the law should exist in the first place.

    I don't know if I'm missing something here. The biggest issue is the signatories, not the content. But using the content to attack the signatories seems like a stretch- problem being that if you cry wolf at everything, no one pays attention when you're crying wolf at an actual wolf i.e. people may disregard his future critiques because this one doesn't seem to stack up.
  2. Sunni By Nature

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    Here are some points that Daniel has made regarding the document and the people that are behind it:

  6. Khanah

    Khanah Veteran

    Do you have a summary for those of us who don't have 3 hours to listen to Daniel? I can understand a critique of the signatories themselves but what does he have to say about the statement- what's wrong with it?
  7. Sunni By Nature

    Sunni By Nature Active Member

    Daniel Haqiqatjou Deobandi gives a critique of the document and its signatories:

  8. Sunni By Nature

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    After many weeks, several prominent scholars in America and Canada have jointly written a statement of monumental importance entitled: “Navigating Differences: Clarifying Sexual and Gender Identity in Islam."

    Public discourse on sexuality over the past few decades has presented challenges to faith communities. Today, Islamic sexual and gender ethics are at odds with certain recently popular societal views, causing tension for Muslims between their religious beliefs and societal expectations. At the same time, public disapproval of LGBTQ practices, beliefs, and advocacy is increasingly met with charges of intolerance and unwarranted accusations of bigotry. More troubling still, there is an increasing push to promote LGBTQ-centric values among children through legislation and regulations, disregarding parental consent and denying both parents and children the opportunity to express conscientious objection. Such policies subvert the agency of Muslim parents to teach their children their religiously grounded sexual ethics, violate their constitutional right to freely practice their religion, and contribute to an atmosphere of intolerance toward faith communities.

    We are Muslim scholars and preachers representing a diverse range of theological schools. Below is our collective, non-partisan articulation of Islam’s position on sexual and gender ethics. As a religious minority that frequently experiences bigotry and exclusion, we reject the notion that moral disagreement amounts to intolerance or incitement of violence. We affirm our right to express our beliefs while simultaneously recognizing our constitutional obligation to exist peacefully with those whose beliefs differ from ours.

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    Shaykh Tameem Ahmadi
    Nur Institute

    Shaykh Hatem al-Hajj, PhD
    Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America

    Shaykh Salah al-Sawy, PhD
    Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America

    Shaykh Ammar Alshukry
    AlMaghrib Institute

    Professor Ovamir Anjum, PhD
    Ummatics Institute

    Ustadha Zaynab Ansari
    Tayseer Seminary

    Imam Navaid Aziz
    Islamic Information Society of Calgary

    Shaykh Jamal Badawi, PhD
    Fiqh Council of North America

    Professor Ihsan Bagby, PhD
    Fiqh Council of North America

    Shaykh Nomaan Baig
    Institute of Knowledge

    Shaykh Waleed Basyouni, PhD
    AlMaghrib Institute

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    Institute of Knowledge

    Imam Yaser Birjas
    Valley Ranch Islamic Center

    Professor Jonathan Brown, PhD
    Georgetown University

    Canadian Council of Imams
    Representing 80 Canadian Imams

    Professor Sharif El-Tobgui, PhD
    Boston Islamic Seminary

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    Shaykh Shadee Elmasry, PhD
    NBIC Safina Society

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    Mishkah University

    Imam Tom Facchine
    Yaqeen Institute for Islamic Research

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    Prophetic Living

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    Memphis Islamic Center

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    Memphis Islamic Center

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    Fiqh Council of the Islamic Society of Greater Houston

    Professor Abdullah Bin Hamid Ali, PhD
    Zaytuna College

    Shaykh Suleiman Hani
    AlMaghrib Institute

    Shaykh Asif Hirani, PhD
    Islamic Circle of North America

    Shaykh Omar Husain, PhD, LPC

    Shaykh AbdulNasir Jangda
    Qalam Institute

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    The Shariah Council of Islamic Circle of North America

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    Ustadha Fatima Lette
    Qalam Institute

    Shaykh Mohammed Amin Kholwadia
    Darul Qasim College

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    Ribat Institute

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    Roots Community

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    Barakah Inc. Leadership Institute

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    Islamic Seminary of America

    Shaykh Yahya Rhodus, PhD
    Al-Maqasid Islamic Seminary

    Imam Jihad Saafir
    Islah LA

    Ustadha Aatifa Shareef, LPC
    Qalam Institute

    Shaykh Muzzamil Siddiqi, PhD
    Fiqh Council of North America

    Imam Syed Soharwardy
    Islamic Supreme Council of Canada

    Shaykh Zulfiqar Ali Shah, PhD
    Fiqh Council of North America

    Shaykh Omar Suleiman, PhD
    Yaqeen Institute for Islamic Research

    Ustadh Amjad Tarsin
    Al-Maqasid Islamic Seminary

    Shaykh Saad Tasleem
    AlMaghrib Institute

    Shaykh Mustafa Umar
    California Islamic University

    Ustadh Mobeen Vaid

    Shaykh Abdullah Waheed
    Miftaah Institute

    Mufti Abdul Rahman Waheed
    Miftaah Institute

    Imam Siraj Wahhaj
    Al-Taqwa Mosque (Brooklyn, NY)

    Shaykh Dawud Walid

    Shaykha Aysha Wazwaz, PhD
    Gems of Light Institute

    Imam Suhaib Webb
    Institute of Sacred Sciences

    Shaykh Tahir Wyatt, PhD
    United Muslim Masjid

    Shaykha Haifaa Younis, MD
    Jannah Institute

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    Shaykh Abu Zayd, PhD
    Quran Literacy Institute

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    Institute of Knowledge

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    DeSoto House of Peace Mosque

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    Imam Yusuf Abdulle
    Islamic Association of North America

    Imam AbdurRahman Ahmad
    Islamic Center of New England.

    Shaykh Tanweer Ahmed
    Hillside Islamic Center

    Shaykh Abdullah Al-Mahmudi
    Muslim Unity Center

    Imam Mowlid Ali
    As-Sadique Islamic Center

    Shaykh Umer Ansari
    Northside Islamic Center of San Antonio

    Imam Akram Baioumy

    Imam Nadim Bashir
    East Plano Islamic Center

    Imam Kemal Cecunjanin

    Shaykh Ismaeel Chartier
    Sunna Institute

    Sheikh Aqib Choudhury

    Shaykh Chad Earl
    Islamic Center of Maryland

    Imam John Ederer
    Muslim Community Center of Charlotte

    Imam Ismail Fenni
    Yusuf Mosque

    Ustadh Ayman Hammous, PhD
    Executive director of Muslim American Society

    Shaykh Ikramul Haq
    Masjid Al-Islam (Rhode Island)

    Shaykh Abdullah Hatia
    Halton Islamic Association

    Imam Mohamed Herbert
    Legacy International High School

    Ustadh Iyad Hilal
    Alarqam Institute

    Imam Ibrahim Hindy

    Ustadh Shakiel Humayun
    NYC Muslim Center

    Shaykh Noman Hussain
    Oasis Chicago

    Professor Muzammil Hussain, PhD

    Shaykh Osama Ibrahim
    Islamic Society of Palm Springs

    Professor Seema Imam, EdD

    Shaykh Auda Jasser, PhD
    Muslim Association of Canada

    Shaykh AbdulRazzak Junaid
    Islamic Center of Nashville

    Imam Umar Kabiruddin
    Al Salaam Academy

    Shaykh Zubair Kahir
    Al hikmah Institute

    Imam Abdirahman Kariye
    Dar Al Farooq Center

    Imam Musleh Khan
    Islamic Institute of Toronto

    Shaykh Zaid Khan
    Institute of Knowledge

    Imam Salah Mahmoud
    Islamic Center of Frisco

    Shaykh Mamdouh Mahmoud, PhD
    Islamic society of greater Houston

    Imam Fuad Mohamed
    Muslim American Society (Bay Area)

    Shaykh Rihabi Mohamed Rihabi, PhD

    Shaykh Ahmed Mohamed, PhD
    Islamic Society of Central Jersey

    Mufti Wahaajuddin Mohammed
    Tawheed Center

    Sheikh Uzair Mohsin
    Islamic Association of Collin County

    Shaykh Suhail Mulla
    Islamic Society of West Valley

    Shaykh Abdullah Mullanee
    Lubab Academy

    Imam Irshad Osman
    Danforth Islamic Centre

    Mufti Nayef Patel
    Masjid Arqam

    Chaplain Tricia Pethic
    Muslim Prisoner Project

    Shaykh Usman Qamar
    Wijhah Initiative

    Imam Hamid Raza
    Al-Ansar Center

    Ustadh Zuhair Shaath
    Chino Valley Islamic Center

    Imam Farhan Siddiqi
    Dar Al-Hijrah Islamic Center

    Shaykh Khalil Skafi
    Sunni Muslim

    Shaykh Mikaeel Ahmed Smith
    Qalam Institute

    Ustadh Ahmed Soboh
    Islamic Shura Council of Southern California

    Ustadh Fahad Tasleem
    Sapience Institute

    Shaykh Suhel Teli
    Darul Uloom New York

    Shaykh Azfar Uddin
    Islamic Foundation North

    Shaykh Osman Umarji, PhD
    Yaqeen Institute

    Shaykh Ibad Wali
    Sacred Knowledge Inc.

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    Masjid Vaughan

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    DAR Foundation

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    Islamic Center of Naperville

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    Islamic Association of Raleigh

    Shaykh Osama Bahloul, PhD
    Fiqh Council of North America

    Imam Mohamed Bendame, PhD
    MAC, Kitchener Masjid

    Imam John Ederer
    Muslim Community Center of Charlotte

    Shaykh Mongy El-Quesny
    Northwest Indiana Islamic Center

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    Islamic Society of Greater Houston

    Imam Mohamed Elghobashy
    Muslim Association of Greater Rockford

    Imam Sulaimaan Hamed
    Atlanta Masjid of Al-Islam

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    Islamic Society of Milwaukee

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    American Society for Islamic Awareness

    Imam Taha Hassane
    Islamic Center of San Diego

    Shaykh Omar Hedroug
    Islamic Center of Naperville

    Shaykh Shakiel Humayun
    NYC Muslim Center

    Imam Majed Jarrar
    Siraj Institute

    Ustadh Waheed Jensen, MD, PhD
    A Way Beyond the Rainbow

    Imam Ali Jomha
    Canadian Islamic Center

    Imam Muhammad Kamruzzaman
    Danforth Community Centre

    Imam Hasan Khalil
    Islamic School of Irving

    Shaykha Zakia Khalil
    Hajar Institute

    Imam Ahmad Khalil
    MAC, Ottawa

    Imam Mustapha Kifah
    Council of Imams and Scholars of Greater Chicago

    Mufti Wasim Khan
    ISRA Foundation (Plano, TX)

    Imam Safi Khan
    Roots Community

    Ustadh Adrian Ashir Kirk
    Measured Tones Institute of Quran

    Prof. Rihabi Mohamed, PhD
    Quranic Performance

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    Islamic Society of Central Jersey

    Imam Muhammad Nabil
    Islamic Center of Markham

    Mufti Abdullah Nana
    Islamic Society of Mill Valley

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    Coppell Islamic Center

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    Al Rashid Mosque

    Imam Omer Rangoonwala, Esq.

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    ISNA Schools and I3 Institute

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    Islamic Society of Palm Springs

    Shaykh Hamzah Saleem
    Hamzah Islamic Center (Atlanta, GA)

    Mawlana Mushtaq Shaikh
    Masjid Bilal Muslim Association

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    Islamic Society of Akron and Kent

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