Noorudeen Rashid mixing madhabs

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  1. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    Section titles in An-Nayyir-ash-Shihabi

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  2. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    Question: Who is a Hanafi?

    Answer from Fatawa Ridawiyyah please.

    Question: What did Alahazrat say of those scholars who restricted the layman to a single madh'hab?

    Answer from Fatawa Ridawiyyah please.
     
  3. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    What are Sh. Noorudeen's qualifications - 5 years in Syria? And he is handing out carte blanche permission to follow rukhas?

    Whereas, fiqh works explicitly state that pursuing dispensations (tatabbu' e rukahs) is ittiba al-hawa.

    khulasatul tahqiq of imam nablusi (posted with translation by @Bazdawi )

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    Alahazrat said of those who closed the door to switching madh'habs: 'naasihaan e ummat' - those who were anxious for the ummah.

    But I guess, the new mantra is: The ummah is already reeling under countless fitan, one more or less - what does it matter?
     
  4. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    you surprise me brother.

    I have been pushing these two short books under everybody's noses but you seem not to have noticed!

    Kashf-e-Ahwaal, Saif-e-Lazawaal

    And that is in addition to Alahazrat's masterpieces:

    Ajla' al-'iylam, Al-Fadl-ul-Mauhabi, al-Nayyir-ush-Shihaabi (p. 593-594), Jali an-Nass fi amakeen al-Rukhas etc.​

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    You ask for quotes - you will find quotes aplenty in these works.

    But fiqh is not a quotes and takhreej game, it's insight (tafaqquh, tafheem) and inspiration or innate capability (mawhibah) - notice the name that Alahazrat chose for his risalah: Fadl al-Mauhabi - which is indicative of divine aid and gift.

    What will you and I do with the quotes? What's important is whether we have the skills to derive from them what was meant to be conveyed - and what are our own skills (or those of our contemporaries) compared to that of a phenomenal faqih like Alahazrat?!

    For example, in Nayyir, Alahazrat moves beyond quotes, into axioms and usul and strikes at the root of the matter:
    • What is taqleed and why is it essential in the first place?
    • What does it imply when one flits between schools like a butterfly?

    Go through these works and if you are still in doubt, you can post on here. Try writing a refutation of Nayyir ash-Shihabi (or ask any contemporary who disagrees to pen an academic rebuttal).

    Interestingly, all three works listed above, were written in refutation of the wahabiyya (or mention them as the torchbearers)!
     
  5. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Jazak Allahu khayra @AR Ahmed good to have all these quotes together.
     
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  6. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Veteran

    One text from Fath al-Qadir of 'Allamah ibn Humam رحمة الله عليه, right before what was quoted:


    والعامي لا عبرة بما يقع في قلبه من صواب الحكم وخطئه ، وعلى هذا إذا استفتى فقيهين : أعني مجتهدين فاختلفا عليه الأولى أن يأخذ بما يميل إليه قلبه منهما . وعندي أنه لو أخذ بقول الذي لا يميل إليه قلبه جاز لأن ميله وعدمه سواء ، والواجب عليه تقليد مجتهد وقد فعل أصاب ذلك المجتهد أو أخطأ . وقالوا المنتقل من مذهب إلى مذهب آخر باجتهاد وبرهان آثم يستوجب التعزير فبلا اجتهاد وبرهان أولى

    A translation:

    As for the layman) it is obligatory for him to do taqlīd of a single mujtahid...The jurists have stated that the one who moves from one madh'hab to another by his ijtihād and evidence is sinful and deserves to be punished. Thus, one who does so without ijtihād and evidence is even more deserving."

    The rukhsah that Imam ibn Humam رحمة الله عليه mentions is for darurah only - even if it is not mentioned specifically, it is specified by the context of the whole passage which was omitted.

    As for the text from Radd al-Muhtar a similar ibarat is in Bahrul Raiq:

    وَفِي كَلَامِ ابْنِ الْهُمَامِ مَا يُفِيدُ ذَلِكَ فِي غَيْرِ هَذَا الْمَحَلِّ أَوْ الْمُرَادُ بِمَنْعِ الْمَرْجُوعِ فِيمَا قَلَّدَ فِيهِ اتِّفَاقًا الرُّجُوعُ فِي خُصُوصِ الْعَيْنِ لَا خُصُوصِ الْجِنْسِ، وَذَلِكَ بِنَقْضِ مَا فَعَلَهُ مُقَلِّدًا فِي فِعْلِهِ إمَامًا؛ لِأَنَّهُ لَا يَمْلِكَ إبْطَالَهُ بِإِمْضَائِهِ كَمَا لَوْ قَضَى بِهِ فَلَوْ صَلَّى ظُهْرًا بِمَسْحِ رُبُعِ الرَّأْسِ لَيْسَ لَهُ إبْطَالُهَا بِاعْتِقَادِهِ لُزُومَ مَسْحِ الْكُلِّ، وَأَمَّا لَوْ صَلَّى يَوْمًا عَلَى مَذْهَبٍ، وَأَرَادَ أَنْ يُصَلِّيَ يَوْمًا آخَرَ عَلَى غَيْرِهِ فَلَا يُمْنَعُ مِنْهُ

    The author of Bahr adds:

    وَقَدْ بَسَطَ الْكَلَامَ فِيهَا فَرَاجِعْهُ وَمَا ذَكَرَهُ الْمُحَقِّقُ مِنْ جَوَازِ تَتَبُّعِ الرُّخَصِ رَدَّهُ ابْنُ حَجَرٍ وَزَعَمَ أَنَّهُ مُخَالِفٌ لِلْإِجْمَاعِ وَانْتَصَرَ لَهُ الْعَلَّامَةُ خَيْرُ الدِّينِ فِي حَاشِيَتِهِ هُنَا بِكَلَامٍ طَوِيلٍ، وَمَنَعَ دَعْوَى الْإِجْمَاعِ فَرَاجِعْهُ وَيُؤَيِّدُ مَنْعَهُ مَا فِي شَرْحِ ابْنِ أَمِيرِ حَاجٍّ بَعْدَ نَقْلِهِ الْإِجْمَاعَ عَنْ ابْنِ عَبْدِ الْبَرِّ حَيْثُ قَالَ إنْ صَحَّ احْتَاجَ إلَى جَوَابٍ، وَيُمْكِنُ أَنْ يُقَالَ لَا نُسَلِّمُ صِحَّةَ دَعْوَى الْإِجْمَاعِ إذْ فِي تَفْسِيقِ الْمُتَتَبِّعِ لِلرُّخَصِ عَنْ أَحْمَدَ رِوَايَتَانِ وَحَمَلَ الْقَاضِي أَبُو يَعْلَى الرِّوَايَةَ الْمُفَسِّقَةَ عَلَى غَيْرِ مُتَأَوِّلٍ وَلَا مُقَلِّدٍ، وَذَكَرَ بَعْضُ الْحَنَابِلَةِ إنْ قَوِيَ دَلِيلٌ أَوْ كَانَ عَامِّيًّا لَا يَفْسُقُ وَفِي رَوْضَةِ النَّوَوِيِّ وَأَصْلُهَا عَنْ حِكَايَةِ الْحَنَّاطِيِّ وَغَيْرِهِ عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ أَنَّهُ لَا يَفْسُقُ بِهِ ثُمَّ لَعَلَّهُ مَحْمُولٌ عَلَى نَحْوِ مَا يَجْتَمِعُ لَهُ مِنْ ذَلِكَ مَا لَمْ يَقُلْ بِمَجْمُوعِهِ مُجْتَهِدٌ كَمَا أَشَارَ إلَيْهِ الْمُصَنِّفُ اه


    The author of Radd al-Muhtar vol 1 is quoted by the author which is in full:

    وإما لو صلى يوما على مذهب وأراد أن يصلى يوما آخر على غيره فلا يمنع منه، على أن في دعوى الاتفاق نظرا، فقد حكي الخلاف، فيجوز اتباع القائل بالجواز، كذا أفاده العلامة الشرنبلالي في العقد الفريد. ثم قال بعد ذكر فروع من أهل المذهب صريحة بالجواز وكلام طويل: فتحصل مما ذكرناه أنه ليس على الانسان التزام مذهب معين، وأنه يجوز له العمل بما يخالف ما عمله على مذهبه مقلدا فيه غير إمامه مستجمعا شروطه ويعمل بأمرين متضادين في حادثتين لا تعلق لواحدة منهما بالأخرى، وليس له إبطال عين ما فعله بتقليد إمام آخر، لان إمضاء الفعل كإمضاء القاضي لا ينقض. وقال أيضا: إن له التقليد بعد العمل كما إذا صلى ظانا صحتها على مذهبه ثم ثبين بطلانها في مذهبه وصحتها على مذهب غيره فله تقليده، ويجتزي بتلك الصلاة على ما قال في البزازية: إنه روي عن أبي يوسف أنه صلى الجمعة مغتسلا من الحمام ثم أخبر بفأرة ميتة في بئر الحمام فقال: نأخذ بقول إخواننا من أهل المدينة: إذا بلغ الماء قلتين لم يجعل خبثا اه‍.

    Yes, perhaps Imam Ibn Abidin رحمة الله عليه believed in taqlid mutlaq but later ulama held strongly to, as I advocate, sticking to one madhab as being wajib li ghayrihi.

    Note what Sh Abu Hasan translated from Khulasat al-Tahqiq:

    khulasat al-taHqiq of abd al-ghani nablusi, p6 citing ibn humam:

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    ibn humam said:
    the position of a muqallid [follower] in issues of ijtihad [mas'alah al-ijtihad] is similar to that of a mujtahid; because if there are two opinions on one issue and he has acted upon one of them, by choosing one of them to act upon it and has signed it off by acting upon it, then he cannot revert from his opinion towards another [other than the one he first acted upon] except by reason of precedence [i.e., consider the other better than the first, tarjiH],

    similar to a person who is confused about the direction of the qiblah in two or more different directions, then he chooses one of them by selecting one of the many directions, so long as any of the other direction is not given given precedence. so also, is a judge, when has to choose from two opinions and after he has issued the judgement and signed the verdict [by selecting] one of the two opinions.

    thus, a muqallid, when having acted upon a ruling of a madh'hab cannot revert from it to [the other ruling of] another madh'hab.
     
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  7. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Great. You highlight it please, from those same or similar fiqh references.
     
  8. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Veteran

    The mention of darurah
    Taqlid shakhsi vs taqlid mutlaq

    etc
     
  9. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Such as...
     
  10. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Veteran

    I think his answer is missing a few things....
     
  11. Alf

    Alf Active Member

    His answer is valid. Nothing wrong with it.
     
  12. Taftazani

    Taftazani New Member

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