on saudis and other things

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  1. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    that's fake news afaik.
     
  2. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran

    Not content with jew hugging, now the Saudi schools will teach religious inclusiveness through ramayan and mahabharat

     
  3. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran

  4. IslamIsTheTruth

    IslamIsTheTruth Active Member

    These Devils are trying to do the same in Indonesia...

    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...3/saudi-arabia-salman-visit-indonesia/518310/
     
  5. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    of-course they aren't and that makes them that much more evil.
     
  6. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran

    I must say that Sauds are not dumb, but are rather methodical in their approach. There is no better place to indoctrinate than Bangladesh. At the risk of sounding condescending and stereotyping, I say that Bangladeshis are ultimate sheeples (or simpletons, to be fair and more charitable) who will accept wahhabi doctrine hook, line and sinker. It's staggering how many bangladeshi sunnis are turning to tablighi jamaat and wahhabism. Very rarely you find one who is staunchly sunni and hates these deviants (like some of us have been brought to do!). I have seen a number of sunni, Bangladeshi mosques in UK losing control and being taken over by deviants. In Madinah Munawwarah, I have seen them rapt, eagerly lapping the lies that mutawwas preach (labelling this and that bidah & shirk).
     
  7. IsmailHusaynQadri

    IsmailHusaynQadri New Member

    The aal as-Sa'ud aren't Jews. They are, in fact, a branch of Banu Hanifah, the tribe of Musaylimah. This is affirmed by the aal as-Sa'ud themselves in their history books and genelogies.
     
  8. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    they have already done so, even for the next decade.
    https://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~gent0113/islam/ummalqura.htm

    and they are also giving grants to Bangla Desh, to build mosques
    http://www.thestar.com.my/news/regi...to-build-hundreds-of-mosques-with-saudi-cash/
     
  9. sunni_porter

    sunni_porter Well-Known Member

    Does the Saudi government not formally post their moon sighting announcements online? I can't find anything. Their government website does not even display the Islamic date anywhere. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs site however does.

    Are there any English Middle East websites that report official government moon sighting announcements on a monthly basis?
     
  10. agent-x

    agent-x Well-Known Member

  11. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran

    Claims that Saudis have given $16bn to Israel as slush fund. Might sound outrageous but not totally out of the realms of possibility.
     
  12. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    http://www.arabnews.com/columns/news/691631

    this is the new trend of "personal Islam" that's creeping in their society lately. if it carries on, the separation of mosque and state is very near.

    we pray to Allah Hejaz comes under Sunni rule soon
     
  13. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    now they're looking at developing and preserving historical artifacts.

    when it was a case of tabarruk, it's shirk

    when it's a case of tourism revenue, it's mandub. bring in those tourist dollars!

    http://www.arabnews.com/featured/news/691256

    and "Umarah-Plus" is not a bid3ah program

     
  14. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran

    I'll add one more "anecdotal evidence";-)

    Saudi moon-sighting method considers the possibility of Islamic new month starting from mahaaq (birth of moon). This practice is eerily similar to that of jews. I have even heard a very respected Imam that he had insider evidences to prove that Saudi moonsighting announcements are driven by their jewish masters!

    Given these mounting "anecdotal evidences", it's time moderators carved these "evidences" into a separate thread!
     
  15. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran

    I'm tempted to add my own "anecdotal evidence";)

    I have heard that the new day najdis identify themselves with abu Lahab and apparently there was a recent edict asking people to avoid reciting Surah al-Lahab (111) and openly cursing abu Lahab.

    ...and haven't the Sauds built a palace for themselves on Jabal Habshi (7 kms from Madinah Munawwarah)? This is the very mountain which marks the boundary of Madinah and the dajjal will reach up to this point and will be forced to beat a retreat. Why build a palace here?
     
  16. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    good example of anecdotal evidence.
     
  17. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    i know of a certified anecdote from a wahabi jail where a hindu spoke rubbish against the Prophet 3alaihis salam, and also one of the Muslim inmates spoke against the mutawwa who was a general nuisance to the inmates. when the mutawwa came to the jail to do his rounds and do "tarbiyah" of the inmates, the Muslim inmates informed him about the hindu's blasphemous remarks and that they were witnesses to it and that he should be executed for it. the hindu on the other hand ratted out on the guy who spoke against the mutawwa. the mutawwa then leaves the hindu alone and goes to the Muslim guy and said something along the lines of, "leave what he said about the Prophet (3alaihis salam). tell me what you said about me." and a lot of the staff and the mutawwa were more worried about the honor of the mutawwa and didn't lend a second thought to what the hindu said.

    that same mutawwa, when once before told about two inmates openly committing sodomy, laughed it off (literally) saying something like, "so what's so unusual about that? everyone does it". this is a guy who worries about his own honor above that of religion! their lives are full of such real life anecdotes left, right and center!
     
  18. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    this is from word of mouth and I myself heard it from a very cautious 'aalim:

    some officer/mutawwa or such was asked, "why do you show such enmity towards those who respect the Prophet (peace be upon him) and why are you so hell bent on removing/hiding things which show his(peace be upon him) greatness and those which remind people of him (peace be upon him)?"

    the reply? - "shuruat kisne kee thi?" "who started it all?"

    i.e we are taking our revenge on the Prophet (peace be upon him) and he was the one who started it !!

    al'iyadubillah. ma'azAllah.
     
  19. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    I was being euphemistic. the point being that perhaps there is lingering asbiyah or something more than that (as yazid is said to have exclaimed "i have avenged my ancestors who were killed in badr". not vouching for the authenticity of this report just trying to point out where I am coming from).

    Granted this is a conspiracy theory or could even be called a 'muslim urban myth' but the saudis' history, particularly the secret back door dealings with the zionists (if proven to be true) and the zion-god-father-USA (well-known fact) lends credibility to such musings. also the lack of a satisfactory explanation as to why a country swimming in oil-wealth and a country for whose protection millions of the world's muslims would lay their lives without a second thought (to protect hijaz shareef) is kowtowing so much to the high-handed imperialists makes one think that there might be powerful ideological reasons behind the screen of the merely 'greedy-rulers' obvious one. Admittedly, I do not set much store by the occam's razor, particularly in world of politics.

    Allah ta'ala knows best.
     
  20. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    this is a non-starter. many SaHabah and great awliya have jewish ancestors. what is the point?

    just as we don't bother about the rumours that the british royal family are descendants of aal al-bayt; we shouldn't bother about saudi family being descendants of jews. the royal family of jordan is well-known to be aal al-bayt, but we don't honour them due to their antics. it is not about ancestors - and there is no point in criticising someone for being descendants of xyz. saudis (descendants of aal saud) are by themselves wicked; no need for pedigrees.

    Allah ta'ala knows best.
     
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