:s1: Shaykh Abd al Hakim in his essay on Spiritual Life in Ottoman Turkey writes the following during his survey of the various Sufi orders in the Ottoman sultanate: The emphasis in red is by me as it is what I want to discuss seriously-- this is no attempt to be controversial or anything like this. It seems to me that this 'strong devotion to the family of the Prophet' along with the associated 'devotional emphases' such as commemorating the martyrdom of Imam e Paak (a.s.) etc. are a perfect description of us South Asian Sunnis aka Barelvis. Isn't it? I don't know any other Sunni groups who during Muharram commemorate 'Ashura like we do by reciting the events of Karbala in countless juloos and majlises, reciting nohay and manqabats, doing khatms for Imam Hussain and even weeping. Just visit any Sunni Barelvi masjid throughout Muharram anywhere and you'll find these mehfils in remembrance of Imam e Aali Maqaam (a.s.) Similarly all the 'Barelvi' channels like Ummah Channel, Takbeer TV, Sunni TV, Madani Channel etc. all have special programmes about Karbala. Same in all our masajid. So, is it fair to say that we -- like Turks during Ottoman times --- can be described as 'devotional Shia' (in the sense of being devoted to the Family of the Prophet and in our actions regarding them - no one else other than Shia say 'Ya Ali madam or Ya Hussain etc.) but not sectarian Shia (as the beautiful quatrain at the end shows)? My second question is why? Why is it that only we amongst all the Ahlus Sunnah - in my knowledge - (please correct me if I am wrong--commemorate these things and the Panj Tan Paak (s.a.) so much? Is it that the other Sunnis have so been influenced by Wahabibism that they associate such things with Rafidis or do you think the common Sunnis have been influenced by Shiasm? Ya Panjtan Paak!