Padri and Mufakkir at Wembley

Discussion in 'Refutation' started by abu Hasan, Oct 18, 2011.

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    i don't think it is worth wasting time on students and murids when the head honcho's speeches are full of inconsistencies and flaws.
     
  2. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    Has this been discussed before? If not, maybe someone can look into a couple of issues.
     

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  3. chisti-raza

    chisti-raza Veteran

    with regards to the FUREC issue all scholars were unanimous in condemning it. Hoever, many merely maintained caution with regards to the takfir of Mawlana Jilani MiyaN which is another issue altogether.
     
  4. The Emir

    The Emir Well-Known Member

    Our Scholars have finally stirred into some action and started to condemn this multi-faith nonsense and the attempt by Dr Tahir ul Qadri to unify and mix religions.

    I find this quite remarkable in that only a few years ago when the same attempt was made at unifying religions by the President of India when he set up the organisation FUREC supported by some so called scholars, Hazrat Shaykh ul Islam Sayyad Muhammad Madani Miya Ashrafi single handedly took a stance against it including against his nephew who was involved in it - and many people including senior scholars instead of fully getting behind him watched from the sidelines and made every excuse not to get involved.

    These same people are full steam ahead in condemning Tahir ul Qadri (and rightly) but refused to do so against an organisation which put unity of religions in writing and had it registered as an official document with the Government.

    A true Shaykh ul Islam does not abdicate his responsibility whether he has support or not which in due course is always shown to be the right course of action!!

    http://www.thelightoftruth.org/
     
  5. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    mughals are a majestic beautiful people. There are bad apples among good apples in all races. Akbar and Dar Shikoh were bad apple mughals. While Hazrat Aurangzeb rahimahuAllah taala was a shining example of Ahlussunnah under the hukum of Sayyiduna Mujaddid Alf Thani raDyAllahu anhu.

    The land of the Mughals, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, are regions that are 99 percennt Sunni, practicing or non practicing. They are desciples of Shah Naqshband raDyAllah anhu. I will post pictures and information about them soon.
     
  6. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Hope this daft mughal from Jhang doesn't go as far as the malun and lanati liar of Punjab
     
  7. Muhammad Ali

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  8. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

  9. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    on page 73 he snips the part of 'jews being the most inimical to muslims along with polytheists'

    because that would unsettle his argument of 'ahl e kitab' being different. so he nicely, omits that part. at least until the next two pages.

    i am reading still...

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  10. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    i have read this until page 57 and i can only see shades of mirza ghulam qadiani as he bends over backwards to kiss the ground below the shoes of jews and christians by absolving them of being anti-muslims.

    in his own stupid and fallacious way, he clubs up everything. the man is totally lost.

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    all the examples starting from p.42 - just ask this idiot, whether christians and jews do not say the same? glossing over the general : 'inspiration' 'waHy' and then ignoring the specific: what do they say about Muhammad RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam and the quran?

    laa Hawla wa laa quwwata illa billah.
     
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  11. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    the other vid posted by unbeknown in post #122. i couldn't help laughing as i was listening to it. but this one is even sillier (posted at sunnaforum): a very recent article by dr.tahir jhangvi pasted to show his whatever.

    is this doctor afflicted with any mental disease or what?

    see pg 8/9. comparing the risalah or prophethood of sayyiduna musa and sayyiduna yisa, with that of sayyiduna RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhim wa sallam he writes:

    so does that mean sayyiduna yisa alayhi's salam or sayyiduna musa `alayhi's salam did not attest to all prophets? what is he trying to say? because such an implication would result in takfir of anbiya alayhimu's salam - al-iyadhu billah.
     

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  12. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    It's old. i had seen it before the queries were put.
     
  13. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    Do we need to look further than the Holy qur'an to know what this Padri has done? If the entire non-Muslim world says that they worship the same "diety" as we do - still they are liars!


    [Surah Kafiroon 109:1-5]

    Proclaim, (O dear prophet Mohammed - peace and blessings be upon him), “O disbelievers!” Neither do I worship what you worship.
    Nor do you worship Whom I worship.
    And neither will I ever worship what you worship.
    Nor will you worship Whom I worship.
    For you is your religion, and for me is mine.
     
  14. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Padri confused the Haqq Saab Yaar Nara and thought it means sikhs, hindus are all Yaars and on Haqq.
     
  15. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    is this new or old?

    i mean, is this in response to our queries or is it an old clip?

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    we will see more about this later, inShaAllah.

    wa billahi't tawfiq.
     
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  16. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

  17. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    Hussam Ul Furqan Ala Man Haajj Al-qur'an

    Dr Tahir will go to any length to be classified as the leader / POPE of the all the religions of the world, combined. He is undoubtedly one of he 30 promised Dajjals. He has crafted his deception in the guise of "love for the prophet" and "love for humanity". His blasphemies know no bounds.

    Carefully read the following book (link) in refutation of his dirty beliefs.

    www.ahlesunnat.biz/hussamulfurqan.pdf
     
  18. Muhammad Ali

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  19. ajaz_sunni

    ajaz_sunni New Member

    This jack does not know the difference between Mawlid un Nabi (sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam) and christmas.
    but its not a shock to me what happened in wembley as hes already been called a padri so what can you expect.
     
  20. Ghulam

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