Paedo Britain

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  1. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    my comment is based on personal observation of the world, and digging mainstream and fringe media. (just so no one thinks it is an official statistic)

    sherkhan touched upon my sentiment in post #30, which MY personal experience and observation of the world testifies to.
     
  2. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Wadood, can you please point me to the source of these statistics if at all these are official british or pakistani recordings?

    otherwise please advise if you know this through your own ilham or gut feeling

    this also applies to a bunch of your other stats on a bunch of other threads. on certain anthropological issues we can debate and discuss, but demographic statistics is something else and some of your numbers are ... quite interesting. (i don't usually google out trivia that people say on forums, except for in certain cases)

    if the source of the numbers you present is based solely on opinion or personal experience, then you can't apply this sort of reasoning unless you qualify that this statistical reasoning also follows through from your own assumed or experienced or ilham-ed "statistics" to start with!
     
  3. Moriarty

    Moriarty Veteran

    The perpertrators from Rochdale are from Saiwal and those from Oxford are Punjab. You can check with some solicitors.

    Mirpuris are stereotyped by Pakistanis. When Kashmiris do something favourable they are labelled as 'Pakistanis' but when they do something negative it is said they are 'Mirpuri'. Even Wasim Akram blamed hooliganism on Mirpuri fans when in reality the fans are a mixed bunch.

    However this is digressing from the subject of the thread.

    Wadood what you said here is false and not fact:

     
  4. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    70% [ i believe more ] of people assumed to be Pakistanis in the UK are from Mirpur + Kotli. spiderman's statistics do not add up. If 75% of paedophilia is committed largely by Pakistanis, and not people of Mirpuri background, that means 30% of the assumed Pakistani community in the UK is responsible for 75% of the British paedophilia. Is this plausible?

    On top of this, the fingers are now only on Pakistani Punjabis! And of the 30% Pakistanis identified above, only 2/3rd are Punjabi, the rest being Sindhi, Pakhtoon, Baloch, Urdu Speakers, etc. So, basically what spiderman is saying is that 20% of the assumed British Pakistani population, which is people from different areas of Pakistani Punjab, are responsible for most of the 75% of British paedophilia.

    On top of this, the fingers are actually only on Pakistani Punjabis from a specific region of Pakistani Punjab! the Pothwaar [ Gujjar Khan, Attock etc. ], and among the British Punjabi Pakistanis, they make up half the population, or 10% and more of the total assumed British Pakistani population. So, what is actually being said is that 10% to 15% of the British Pakistani population [ Pothwaari Pakistani Punjabis ] are responsible for most of the ills. PAQS is also a Pothwaari Pakistani Punjabi.

    or a mere 150,000 community [ about 40% less the size of the British Philippino community ] is responsible for most of the British paedophilia. However, the fact is that the Pothwaari community in the UK is largely an educated, successful Pakistani ethnic group.
     
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  5. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    exactly, the hadith shareef says: My(sallallahu 'ala rasulAllah) community shall follow the people of the book as a pair of shoes match each other.....
     
  6. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran

    Moriarty is making a valid point here. No body is denying that perpetrators were Pakistanis. The media coverage has been disproportionate, biased and down-right islamophobic. Media, institutions, police and government have openly identified the grooming with Muslims. Why do they not draw the same linkage when perpetrators are Christians, Jews etc.? Do we ever hear that such and such offender was a jew?

    Every terrorist and extremist is identified as Islamist (if not yet terrorist), Islamic extremist/fundamentalist (if he is just being muslim) or Islamic terrorist (if he has just been caught in suspicion).

    Take the case of Michael Piggin (a Breivik in the making) who went scot-free. Or Eric King. I doubt if even one of you have even heard or read about this. The nature of coverage to so called Islamic terrorism is so disproportionately high that not a day passes when any newspaper, TV or news website doesn't devote minimum 2-5% of their coverage on this (as if the entire country is in flames and Muslims are desperately looking to hunt and kill).
     
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  7. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran

    I don't see much problem with AQ's sweeping statement. Human beings irrespective of race and religion are prone to Satanic vices. That's where the haqq of the religion comes in. Islam, for example, is true anti-dote for any act of fahsh (inna as-salata tanha anil fahsha i wal munkar). A Muslim ordinarily should have the fear of Allah (azza wa jal), of the Day of Judgement etc. and he should desist from vices (and that they don't is down to human foibles, environment, poor upbringing etc.). Even other false/abrogated religions have some common human values and act to provide a moral compass. Once a man is stripped of moral compass, he is a depraved animal (nay, even worse).

    The west lost its moral compass long back. Church was castrated by State and Christianity has been emasculated for long. Small wonder that Christian west is most prone to depravity (although it will wrong to say that every white Christian is depraved and pervert). I see this phenomena in 'hindu' India too. Once the traditional values got eroded by western culture and consumerism, religious hatred and vices have grown several folds. No body is saying that Muslims are immune from depravity (and with time we will witness more from our folks too), but such acts are deviations rather than norm. As they say, you can't judge Islam from current day Muslims.
     
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  8. Moriarty

    Moriarty Veteran

    Wadood have you checked their ethnicities? As that does not appear on any of the reports. Many people mistaken Potwari speakers from Jhelum, Gujarkhan, Kotli, Deena, people from Rawalpindi and many other places as 'Mirpuri'.

    Remember when AQ called PAQS a Mirpuri mistakingly?

    It is a well known fact that the main drug pushers in Birmingham are ethnics from Attock (Chachis) yet people will label them as 'Mirpuris'.

    When 7/7 attacks happened Masud Khan blamed Mirpuris with scorn on deenport. It turned out after that not a single attacker was from Mirpur..

    So I would love to know where exactly these people were from with proof?
     
  9. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    but the convicted british taxi drivers are mostly of Mirpuri ethnic background, NOT Pakistani. this is a fact!

    and can i plz ask, why r you posting sardaar nonsense?

    sardaar jees grooming girls is more than pakistani
     
  10. Moriarty

    Moriarty Veteran

    Spiderman: my point is simple. It is that you cannot say the majority of grooming is carried out by Pakistanis. Statistically that does not match up.
    My second point is that the taxi drivers have been highlighted more in the media while in comparison the people in power get very little coverage. Why has the dossier on paedophilia at ten Downing street been taken off the media? Why has the Prince Phillip case been brushed under the carpet? Whats happened to the thousands of groomers in parliament and the BBC?
    Only the Pakistani taxi drivers are being mentioned again and again.

    The reason why it is given more attention is because of their ethnicity:

    http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/5741360

    The Muslim community is being asked to condemn simply because they are already guilty in the eyes of the racialist. Like terrorism, they can condemn it until the cows come home, but the common Muslim is still responsible.

    Quote from above article and please read it:


    However, there is a more fundamental issue underlying this entire debate about ethnicity. There is a longstanding assumption in the West that white people are somehow perfect - and that any crime committed by a white person therefore must be a deviation from that perfection. The crime is certainly never seen as a reflection on the race as a whole.

    But when members of an ethnic minority commit crimes, it is seen as symbolic, something that reflects the imperfection of their race - an inherent flaw of their race and culture, or at the very least of their failure to adopt "Western culture" or "British values".

    This thinking, whether conscious or unconscious, runs throughout society and its institutions. But you rarely notice it unless you are on the receiving end.
     
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  11. spiderman

    spiderman Active Member

    Moriarty I not once did deny that this does not happen in the uk and senior members of parliarment are guilty of this. The evidence that you presented i seen and read it all before, and if you read all my post on this matter i have always insisted that our( the Muslim, Pakistani) view should be heard. When some of these (pakistani groomers) were sentenced they were walking in the courtroom with a copy of the Quran why didnt us Muslims condeme that act. The riots that happened the sikh community was also targeted but they came out on the streets advocating there views. A huge number even( moderate) non Muslim think that the Quran and sunnah allow this why because if no body from the Muslim community is speaking up what are they to think.

    Sikhs girls get groomed and they come out and give there religious views on the matter. We (Muslim Pakistani) get accused of being peodopiles, groomers, child molesters, and Allah knows what else and we remain to be keyboard warriors.

    Wadood you have a nerve on another thread you were blaming the mirpuris for this.
     
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  12. CHISHTI

    CHISHTI Well-Known Member

    ....."I agree. paedophilia is far more popular among whites than any other race, especially the white English"

    ...bruth that's utter rubbish...that would suggest some type of DNA based urge amongst "whites" or cultural acceptance of paedophilia. Shaitaan doesn't attack people via race..some races being urged to commit these crimes while others are exempt ...or given a pass from by the devil...what about javed Iqbal..the infamous child rapist and murderer from Lahore Pakistan who raped and killed over a hundred children with help of the police and local politicians..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javed_Iqbal_(serial_killer)...

    ..or the "bacha baazi" in the north west frontier region where young boys dance dressed as girls infront of older men and then are raped and abused...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

    ..india is well known to be one of the centres of child sexual exploitation and abuse as well as a massive rape problem .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse_in_India.

    Also child sex is massive in Africa...especially north Africa which is mostly muslim. This is a huge, world wide problem affecting all races and demographics..not just centred on one race or geographical region. The reason why we hear about this crime in the west is because of social media, real investigative journalism and a serious move to stop sweeping taboo subjects under the rug to avoid criticism and unwanted attention.

    I'm fully aware of the epidemic of child abuse in the catholic church and the underhand highlighting of paedophilia by "muslims" by the Zionist controlled bbc and print media to distract the attention of the public from the widespread paedophilia carried out by the royals, mps and the establishment..but to say it's more of a "white English" thing is just plain wrong.
     
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  13. inquisitive

    inquisitive Well-Known Member

    How true!
     
  14. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    what a world!

    it's completely broken at all places, at all levels, no chance of repairing. the sooner it ends the better........

    people just tidy up your graves and go to sleep the first chance you get, no good staying here
     
  15. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    i agree. pedophilia is far more popular among whites than any other race, especially the white english and their exploitative escapades to the far east are nowhere close to the cases encountered among desis and Arabs, but no one's gonna talk about the education system, the establishment, and the archbishop of canterbury being miserable losers and failures. don't even get started on the catholic church. as long as you bash the mulla and the brown skinned taxi driver from the desi ghetto, it's all dandy as you are displaying symptoms of enlightenment.

    one will also notice a very strong correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia. mostly gays don't see any problem with pedophilia and sexual grooming of underage boys (or girls by others, as a matter of their principles), but it's taboo in the west to say anything against the gay lobby. we are all being forced to believe that anything or anyone can be abnormal in society except for gays. come to think of it, it's like one of those personality cult things - "my shaykh is never wrong" - same thing here "gays are never wrong".

    new "research" by (or supported by) the gay lobby is trying to wash away the facts from previous research regarding homosexuality and pedophilia being correlated and historically sound belief (regardless of religions) that homosexuality is indeed a mental illness that can only be cured by death. in pakistani punjab they even have proverbs about gays and how their childhoods must have been. i do not wish to cite some rude punjabi sayings.

    articles like these are becoming harder to read and will become zero in another 10 years - http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13722/

    jews are gays are off limits if you want any decent PR in the modern west.
     
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  16. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    i agree with brother Moriarty. He has always presented the truth. The Pakistanis are deliberately being targeted in the UK for sinister reasons.

    native british paedophilia has always been sky rocketing high. it spans not just the UK, but internationally! Thailand, Bali, Cambodia, Indonesia, Phillipines, Sri Lanka, eastern europe are favourite spots for these British paedophiles, who are the worst

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-154623/Pete-Townshend-I-paedophile.html
     
  17. Moriarty

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  18. Moriarty

    Moriarty Veteran

    The BBC has so many groomers that even the programme 'EastEnders' has been grooming:

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4856892/Suspected-EastEnders-paedophiles-investigated.html

    Police are investigating allegations of a paedophile ring operating around the set of the popular BBC soap EastEnders.

    Police say that former members of the show's staff may have abused their jobs to groom vulnerable underage youngsters, who flock to the set hoping to catch a glimpse of its stars.

    Arrests are said to be imminent, according to the Sun.

    "Police are shocked at what they have unearthed," a source told the tabloid. "Arrests are very likely. This is bigger than anyone imagined.


    "A lot of work has been done over the last few months. Top police bosses have been shocked at what they have unearthed so far and are determined to finish the job."

    A team of detectives is investigating a group of adults who worked on the show in the 1980s and 1990s. The suspects are believed to have attempted to groom young autograph-hunters who hang around the entrance to the set.
     
  19. Moriarty

    Moriarty Veteran

    ‘Nobody from John Humphrys in the morning to Evan Davis at night dares mention a scandal at the BBC. It undermines their reporting of every abuse whistleblowers reveal. It reinforces the dirty common sense of British life that you must keep your head down if you want to keep your job.

    The scandal is simply this: the BBC is forcing out or demoting the journalists who exposed Jimmy Savile as a voracious abuser of girls. As Meirion Jones put it to me: “There is a small group of powerful people at the BBC who think it would have been better if the truth about Savile had never come out. And they aim to punish the reporters who revealed it.”’

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/08/bbc-whistleblowers-jimmy-savile
     
  20. Moriarty

    Moriarty Veteran

    ‘More than 1,000 people have been questioned by police investigating claims of historic sex abuse, it was revealed yesterday.

    The huge number, including suspects, victims and witnesses, lays bare the scale of the task facing detectives.

    Scotland Yard boss Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe admitted the wave of allegations is consuming a huge amount of resources. But he pledged to get to the heart of the claims, no matter who was involved.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lice-investigating-child-sex-allegations.html
     

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