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Discussion in 'Bickering' started by Ghulam, Nov 19, 2014.
Qaid e Inqilab must have thought Shah Sahib may do what he did to him all those years ago
in the above video, during zahid shah speech @ 3:50, zahid shah says, "when amongst muslims they say Allah Allah and amongst hindus, ram ram. i don't need to elaborate on this." it's very interesting that tahir says, "no need to elaborate." perhaps he was afraid zahid shah would refute perennialism or his wembley antics.
@ 3:25, tahir is wiping the sweat off the back of his neck straight after zahid shah says, 'sulH kull'.
another nawaz is seen at 6:30 shouting 'go, nawaz, go',
tu apni khudi agar na khotaa
zunnaari e zandaqah na hotaa
tahir ka sadaf guhar se khali
hai uska tilasm sab khayali
anjam e khirad hai bey-huzuri
tahir ka tamasha deeN se duuri
tu sayyid e hashmi ki aulaad
maddah e ameer e ilHaad
why, did tahir ever say devbandi are good or that he will pray behind anyone regardless? did he say good about any rafidis or attend their matams? why, did tahir ever brown nose to christians in the west? and does his minhaju'sh shaytan ever admit non-sunnis?
zahid sahib, as i said should reflect on his own advice.
"ghayrat e eemani"? shah sahib must be in a very cynical mood that night. upon listening again, i think shah sahib was employing his skills of sarcasm.
jalal e padshahi ho ke jamhuri tamasha ho
juda ho deeN siyasat se to rah jati hai changezi
[whether it is the reign of a monarch or the theatre of democracy
when the affairs of the state are removed from religion, only barbarism remains]
shah sahib didn't get the memo. tahir vants to sleep together with everyone regardless of religion.
since shah sahib likes iqbal, let me quote something for him too: (for those who are interested, it is in zarb)
replace 'falsafah' with 'politics' (however, for his son, it is apt)
chuN deedah e raah beeN na daari
qaayid e qarashi ba az madari
and since you are not able see the road ahead
take a qurayshi (meaning real muslim*) as your guide, not a conjurer**
*like a muslim who will defend the tawHid of Allah ta'ala far more than everything else.
**in the original line, iqbal says 'qaayid e qarashi ba az bukhari' quoting Hakim khakhani from "tuHfatu'l aarifin". in this sheyr, 'bukhari' is a reference to abu ali sina as he was the physician of the ameer of bukhara. iqbal says - leave philosophy and hold fast unto islam. i say leave the street-actor and follow islam. perchance NJ is reading this, this applies to him too if you ignore the references of nasab.
Bro i think thats a bit harsh, shaytaan(iblees) even though he is a kafir he has immense amount of knowledge, you can say that the knowledge didnt benefit him, but to say he has no knowledge i think thats slightly too far.
Everyone feel free to correct me.
You have presented proof that he is incompetent. That is the reason why he hardly has proper students. Him being knowledgeable is not true. Shah Sahib is incompetent. Even if he had remained Sunni, i would advise everyone to stay away from him because he is ignorant and has no right to call himself a scholar of Islam.
baig doesn't have the guts to refute tahir's heresy. though he cites the hadith on being upright and refuting evil. tahir is aghast for a moment until the sheyr, 'straight in our hearts' comes up when he is relaxed and happy. funny.
bunch of hypocrites.
five years down the line, we will see all these people. when tahir gets a real undressing and people will stop spitting on him as it is not good adab to spit in najasah - the spittle of a muslim being clean.
we will see these sidekicks. shameless sell-outs.
pir zahid sahib ko us aayat par amal karna chahiye jiski tilawat is clip meiN unhoN ne ki.
shah sahib, this is vulgar. eeeyuck.
shayad aap khud jaise musalmanoN ki baat karte haiN. ya khud par doosre musalmanoN ko qiyas kartey haiN. wAllah, jo sacha musalman hai, party kya, tahir jaise murtadd kya, kisi bahkey sayyid zadey ka bhi difa'a us jalla shanahu ke muqabile meiN nahiN karta. aur aap us murtad ke qaSidey paRh rahe hain. al-iyadhu billah.
in case of these people, they are doing difa'a of padri more than the difa'a of saHabah!
or to turn it around, those who attack saHabah will be condemned to defend murtaddin and third-rate politicians.
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Har aak ka chamcha............ @ the moment Dr Padri sahib is the chamcha of America, the yahood and india and Allama Nisar Beig, well he has got no real position now since leaving Muffakar sahib over land rights!
bro send the youtube links please
There are shouts of Go Nawaz Go
But there are Ulama sat on stage with Qaid e Inqilab that were at the PPP Conference with Bilawal Bhutto just 24 hours earlier
Allama Baig says we need to unite under the leadership of Qaid e Inqilab as others cannot gather a handful of people
Brother ghulam can you send me the video link for youtube please?
Speech by Hazrat Pir Sayyid Zahid Husayn Rizvi. Could the poetry of Shirazi be used on Qaid e Inqilab?
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
I think Ahle sunnat in the UK would have been in a much stronger position. One thing you cannot doubt is that Shah sahib is very knowledgeable, but he has not really been able or successful in benefiting the youth, which is the bis shame. If he has properly prepared 20-30 youths the wobblies and other deviants in and around London would have not been able to get such a foothold. The sad thing is even if he has lots of great things to say whose going to listen to him? only die hard AQS supporters, even people close to him even in his own circles/tanzeem have left him even if it is to do with jaadaat!!!
its a shame, it would have been great if he stayed on the same position as the other sunni ulama!
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
ما شاء الله recognized a few home boys there, but on a more serious note not more then 50 people there to do istaqbaal of muffakar sahib. Long gone from the days when it would have been thousands. I guess that is a result of hadret sahib position, current stance and distancing himself from mainstream ahle sunnat. I also think that there's a few people around hadret sahib that have not helped his cause, bbit of a shame really.
Mufakkir e Islam has also arrived