Reviving the Islamic spirit (RIS) 2017

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    the concept of marriage and chastity has been slaughtered at the altar of libertarianism and 'individual freedom'. "why does God care who we sleep with or what we do with our bodies?" goes the anthem.

    as akbar ilahbadi said:

    ab to hai ishq e butaN mein zindagani ka mazaa
    jab khuda ka saamna hogaa, to dekha jayeega

    but as the hadith was quoted, all that is in this world is not worth a fly's wing. Divine Retribution, by Allah's own choice is delayed. this is perceived by kafirs as lack of power or lack of will to give them recompense. so leave them; and let them wallow in their ignorance, impudence and vain pleasure:

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  2. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    Winston Churchill described the English as a "xyz Race," meaning illegitimate offspring - who due their improper lineage were (also) extremely vile rascals.

    that was about 80 years ago.......
  3. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam foretold of all this - increase and prevalence of zina, zina becoming commonplace, and that hudud would be discarded.

    just as recent as 60-70 years ago, western society did not accept children out of wedlock and scorned such 'bastards'. it is only in our times that an illegitimate child (obama) can become a president! or the current president a lecher...
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  4. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    with adultery being the norm, stoning would mean killing everyone. however, it doesn't require a genius to figure out that if there was a harsh deterrent, adultery would not have become the norm in the first place.

    i always say, that if victor hugo's les miserable or dickens' novels would be laughed off in our age. and if this culture was prevalent only 60 years ago, steve jobs would be steve jandali...

    nas'alu Allaha al-aafiyah
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  5. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    'enlightened' according to the gospel of the adulterous west. they had to abolish it because, adultery is the norm. men and women can sleep around with a dozen partners without inviting any scorn, but polygamy is illegal.

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  6. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    if the world near Allah was equal the wing of a fly (in your eyes*), Allah ta'ala would not give a sip of water to disbelievers.

    meaning that the world is of no value - just like none of us values the wing of a fly. because if it were even of that value, Allah ta'ala would retribute and not allow any disbeliever for even one sip of water.

    that the fact that disbelievers enjoy and wallow in luxuries is only because this world has no value.

    لَوْ كَانَتْ الدُّنْيَا تَعْدِلُ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ جَنَاحَ بَعُوضَةٍ مَا سَقَى كَافِرًا مِنْهَا شَرْبَةَ مَاءٍ
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  7. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    What Salma is saying seems hugely problematic. She has a problem with Quranic injunctions? Or their application? At face value, it appears she has a problem with the hadd itself.

    The ulama need to speak on this issue.
  8. Sunnisoldier

    Sunnisoldier Active Member

    Why would he word it exactly like the words of the Messenger of Allah peace and blessings be upon our liegelord and then change the ending?

  9. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Did he say he's narrating a hadith? Otherwise he can say I was simply making a comment. Though it's still very distasteful as he will know the wordings of the hadith.
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  10. Sunnisoldier

    Sunnisoldier Active Member

    He has mistranslated the famous hadith.
    He has translated the word Kafir as criminals and thieves.

  11. Mehmet Sekil

    Mehmet Sekil Active Member

    Mevlana Aqdas you have made mention of Umar Wymann-Landgraf and 'The Study Quran'. However, on this side of the pond the Sunni Ulama in Bradford-î Şerif were openly supporting Selma a few months ago. Incidentally Selma was an invited speaker at the RIS conference.

    Selma recently said in the following interview:-

    Interviewer: Jews and Christians, if asked about the harsher laws in the Bible – for example, that a woman caught in adultery should be stoned to death – will say: Well, of course that was then and this is now and our understanding of God has developed in the centuries since. How would you respond to people who say that Islam is trying to take us back to ‘then’, to a harsher, less enlightened age?

    Selma: I think it’s exactly the same challenge for all of us, because those verses are in the Bible, they are in the Torah and they are in the Qur’an, and I certainly am not comfortable with that, you know? I have actively campaigned against countries like Iran and Saudi where they do this, because I see it as deeply, deeply hypocritical.

    There’s a mechanism in Islam, called ijtihad, where you’re always questioning [the teaching] and applying [it] in the context. So, it’s about: What do you apply? How do you apply it? Islam in itself is not rigid – but some people try to take their interpretation of religion and impose it on a whole society. You know, if you want to live your life a certain way between you and God, whether it’s very strict or not, do it! But don’t try to impose it on everyone else!

    The younger ehl-î Sunnat Ulama in the UK such as Mevlana Esrar, Mevlana Yaseen (who also spoke at the RSI conference) need to constructively challenge the older Ulama who support such people in their attempt to infiltrate the community of ehl-î Sunnat to spread their heresy.

    May Allah Ta’ala revive the way of Hadrat Imam-î Rabbânî , Ameen.
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  12. Aqib alQadri

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    he says it is a "gift from God". and then says "I have learnt something new on every page of this book, which I did not know before".
    two things are evident from this.

    1. this doctor knew nothing before, so this is enlightenment for him!


    2. this book has (new) material that is not found in any other Qur'an exegesis, since 14 centuries.
  13. Aqdas

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  14. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Shaykh Asrar responds:

    Those trying to 'revive the Islamic spirit' or 're-interpret Orthodoxy' please take note of the following points which every Muslim must know:

    - Salvation in the afterlife is only with Islam

    - Perennial philosophy is kufr

    - Extinguishing of hellfire for disbelievers is an heterodox position, not valid and must be refuted

    - 'The Study Quran' contributors and promoters, Fons Vitae publishing house and similar groups are purveying kufr (disbelief) and must make amends

    - The disbelief of the Qadiyani, both groups, is not an issue of politics but theology

    - Fatwa is only permitted within the four schools and the reliable positions, anything else like minority fiqh is aberrant

    - Shariah and caliphate are not imagination but an obligation on Muslims in Muslim lands to establish

    - Belief in common descent of humans with animals and such aspects of evolution theory are disbelief

    - Prostrating to graves, circumambulation around them, making pictures of saints and other folklore are heresy. Such ignorant people should be taught tawhid by Ulama and we do not take the khawarij stance regarding them

    - Explicit insults without coercion to Allah, the Messengers (alayhimusalam), angels, the books or any aspect of Islam is disbelief regardless of intention and the person must repent

    - Ascribing faults to Allah like lying is heresy

    - Anthropomorphism is heresy

    - Insulting the companions and family of the Prophet (alayhisalam) is heresy

    - Suicide bombings, vigilante attacks and senseless violence is prohibited and such people are to be punished by the law

    - Palestine and Masjid Aqsa are illegally occupied and Muslim countries are obligated to take Masjid Aqsa back

    - Muslims must contest the banking system and its usurious oppressive system which has caused poverty and other social issues

    - Muslims are obligated to help the oppressed, believer and disbeliever, wherever that may be

    - Muslims are obligated to preserve the environment and keep the earth clean and safe

    - Muslims are obligated to tackle poverty
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  15. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    A few heretics on this year's card.


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