Seedy Mark Hanson Conferance

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  1. snaqshi

    snaqshi Active Member

    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

    To be fair I think that's what the brother meant by saying, "can anyone translate whats being said" at least hats what i understood what he said.

    I have heard from a few scholars, regarding Moulvi Anwar Shah Kashmiri, that he studied in Deoband, but not in the darul uloom of the deobandiyyah and that he use to attend Urs and mawlid gathering, but was neem gharam towards the deobandiyyah, since he had several sanads that reached back through the akaabir of Deobandiyyah. Moulvi Rashid Ghumgiya in the early days before tazkirah rasheediyyah (I have a first edition copy given to me as a gift) and his infamy was hiding himself a sunni alim, hence he gain ijaza's from Imdadullah Thanvi Imam hajjar Makki, so the awaam where duped in effect (a famous trick of these deo-ghandi's). When he returned back to kashmir Moulvi sahib attended sunni gatherings.

    Wonder if any brothers have anything similar to this or can confirm he was an out and out deo-gandi. I know of a few deobandi sufi circle, yes deobandi ones that give their tariqat shajarah as silsila chistiyyah through Moulvi Rashid Ghumgiyya and/or Naqshbandi Owaisi silsilah shajarah through Moulvi Anwar shah Kashmir.
     
  2. Abu Hamza

    Abu Hamza Hanafi-Maturidi

    ... I wonder if the Shaykh knows that Anwar Shah Kashmiri's sanad in hadith goes through Rashid Ahmad Gangohi...
     
  3. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    please state that you are incapable of translating this.

    yes yaqubi sahib mentions anwar shah kashmiri - and it is well known that anwar shah was sold at premium by deobandis. but as they say, people of kashmir know about kashmiris more than damascenes. you better ask some mirpuri kashmiris about what they think of anwar shah.
     
  4. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Does Yaqoubi Sahib like Mark believe that salvation will not be limited to Muslims?

    Should we call it quits and agree with Mark and Yaqoubi Sahib and stop talking about heaven and hell. After all Mark did say this is what I meant by exclusive truth and the pakis did not understand the nuances.


    5.23
    now, to read in every theology that followers of other faith will go to hell is natural in theology, but this is theology, which protects the very existence of every faith. what we are facing now is taking this outside in newspapers, in friday sermons, in our daily talks, to tell the commons that others are going to hell.

    5.57
    preaching hell used to be popular in the past, because people would cry and people would become fanatic and people would pay more money, but it shouldn't be so popular. because it causes hatred. it causes fanaticism.

    6.16
    i [will] give you an example also from our syrian conflict now. as you may be aware, we have a sect, a minority in power called the alawite minority. which in theology, muslim sunni scholars agree that these are non muslims. i wouldn't say what i [*unclear] but i am telling you what is in books. a sunni girl should...cannot marry an alawite man; but to take this outside books of theology is very wrong.
     
  5. ahlus-sunnah

    ahlus-sunnah Veteran

    Sayyid Naseer al-Din Naseer, Rahimahullah did mention that they briefly met
     
  6. kattarsunni

    kattarsunni Veteran

    Who cares about these red herrings that Yaseen is throwing to people. who told you about Pir Mehr Ali's incident, Yaseen? After all he is a former Gaulravi. People give and take ijazas, from deviants as well, but Yaqoubi Sahib gives them to people who teach and recommend Dante and say guidance is not exclusive to Islam.
    Keep theology in the classroom as you do not understand the nuances of it all.
     
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  7. ahlus-sunnah

    ahlus-sunnah Veteran

    Did Mawlana Anwar Shah Kashmiri meet Sayyiduna Pir Mehr Ali Shah Rahimahullah & take Ijāzā from him?

    I heard his name mentioned here [can anyone translate what is being said?]

     
  8. snaqshi

    snaqshi Active Member

  9. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    wasn't that the tablighi guy?

    man that view of toronto airport was a bit nostalgic
     
  10. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    Firstly, we should be fair and just [ I am not accusing anyone ]. There is a lot happening here with attractive names from exotic countries like 'Iraq and Syria. So, for that purpose, we should ask questions and seek clear cut answers, lest we throw the baby out with the bath water. Otherwise, there will be lots of confusion and we might end up being labelled as Takfiris, fitnah-mongers, slanderers, with evil agendas.

    1) Who is Shaykh Afeefuddin al Jaylani? [ that is what matters: what are his religious qualifications? which school did he study from? what were his grades? Who are his teachers that can testify? is he a shaykh just by family affiliation? did he just become a Shaykh by Ba'ath Party jumping?] The same question can be asked for Shaykh Wathiq ' Ubaydi. A lot of Iraqi Scholars that appear are actually unqualified and will fail an Islamic Science test. Their character is not that different from Dr Tahir. There is immense jahal in Iraq too. Not just Saudi.

    2) Now, if he knows about Sunni Aqeeda, we should ask, what are their personal beliefs on Kafirs, Shiites, Wahabites, TafDilites, Ikhwanites?

    3) There is no harm in asking: Are they being duped by Habib Ali Jifri, Shaykh Faisal abd ar razzak and his friend Faraz Shaytani?

    Interesting photos. Shaykh Faisal abd ar razzak on Toronto airport with Faraz Shaytani I can notice Colonel Amiruddin's son standing there at Faraz's Seekers Hub
     
  11. ahlus-sunnah

    ahlus-sunnah Veteran

    It seems like the Iraqi scholars such as Shaykh Afeefuddin al-Jailani & Imam imam watheq obaidi have joined in too

    http://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.ne..._=1423836290_0f554f0221f3c1fc5d5d8f9715743e5d

    http://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.ne..._=1423878106_1ddc6dfdfed4487ae0b96fdc7bd94b25

    http://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.ne..._=1427506461_c9c8c4e5d0fc9c54decad32580745942

    http://fbcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.ne..._=1423031031_d60fbbe79c6b7f5b5a6a7b3752bd5e43

    http://minhajimages.kortechx.netdna...sia-meeting-HSI-13082011-asian-counsil-04.jpg

    http://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-0/10255890_545279355583171_567569318081513039_n.jpg?oh=12b9a5b2798b5f0000f1d67f6b66af80&oe=54DE5363&__gda__=1428114730_be193c5c029333937f1418a5d81863ef
     
  12. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    yes, that is tafDili insulter of Sahaba al Kiraam, the Shiite Ninowy's institute in Amreeka, and lo and behold, Shaykh Yaqoubi is there too. yup dual bandits, wolves in disguise to make a living especially Mokhtar Maghroui a former hidden wahabi who has jumped gun and become a partner to tafDili Ninowy :eek:

    I know this from personal experience.

    Looks like they are all out to profit from a "Syrian" "Sunni" "Sufi" shaykh yaqoubi with direct links to dimashq

    Ninowy claims to be Aleppan but is not as attractive as Shaykh Yaqoubi :D
     
  13. Exposition

    Exposition Active Member

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  14. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    Rumour has it there is a event to take place in March where Hamza Younis will make a return back to the UK however it won't be in Birmingham .
     
  15. Ethical_Barelvi

    Ethical_Barelvi Active Member

    Imagine if Shaykh Muhammad al Yaqoubi and Hamzah Yusuf in UK going to A deobandi place. 'Bare Rollay' o_O
     
  16. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    I have a feeling. Shayk Yaqoubi will abandon the UK and come to the free, love for all environment prevalent in North America. UK mureeds will lose their hold on Sacred Knowledge, and it will be North American in the coming years.

    Shaykh Yaqoubi will never have seen such flowing money coming towards him especially from the feminist, still not married thousands of American Muslimah Hijabis, or divorced. As the divorce rate in Mr Noah Keller and Mr Hanson groups has shot up even higher

    Over here he will find a fertile ground 10 times the size of UK and Europe. Now that he is in a long trip.

    Chao UK Murids! Hola to Amreeka!
     
  17. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    jazak Allah to whoever changed the thread title.
     
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  18. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    So, Shaykh Faisal Abd ar Razzak and Sacred Knowledge are conducting a Sunni Conference in a Deobandi prayer house

    pathetic, but totally understandable since he is a good friend and supporter of Faraz Shaytani and Co.
     
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  19. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    its a deobandi mosque
     
  20. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    I have been to SBIA [ South Bay Islamic Association] in San Jose, California, where Shaikh Yaqoubi is on venue with Hamza Yusuf.

    It is a deobandi association, and its imam [ Tahir Anwar ] is a debo of Faraz Shaytani type, though far far better than him
     

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