Seeing behind like infront

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  1. Ubaid

    Ubaid Active Member


    honest answer: neither.
     
    Ubaid, Nov 4, 2008
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  2. chisti-raza

    chisti-raza Veteran

    Allamah Sayyid Kazmi Saheb (alaihi rahmah) writes this in his treatise on the Mer'aj.

    It is reported that when Hadrat Jibraeel Ameen(alaihi salaam) had placed the heart of the Holy Prophet (salal laahu alaihi wa sallam) in the water of Zam Zam, he stated, “The blessed heart was free of all defect and fault. In it, there were two eyes which looked and two ears which listened.” (Fathul Bari vol 13, Page 410)

    These were those special and unique eyes and ears which saw those things which no ordinary human could see. It is for this reason that the Holy Prophet (salal laahu alaihi wa sallam) has stated that, “I can see that which you cannot see and I can hear that which you cannot hear.”
     
    chisti-raza, Nov 4, 2008
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  3. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    why not?

    doesn't work for who or how? what constitutes a report that 'works'?

    you seem to miss fundamental principles while harping at the hawāshī just as you did in the other thread about ahl al-bid'ah. [inshaAllah we will revisit it...]

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    honest question: are you an atheist or a hadith-denier?
     
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    abu Hasan, Nov 4, 2008
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  4. Ubaid

    Ubaid Active Member

    knowledge of things in the Prophetic sense requires having knowledge of realities of things by a meta-physical means so according to this argument, "eyes" are not needed. khushu and khudhu are subjective properties and knowing these necessitates non-physical sources.

    shaq e sadr in physical sense cannot be justified eventhough some have tried to attach that with exegesis of alam nashrah.

    any type of imperfection at any time for Rasul Allah al-Mustafa(sallalahu alayhi wa aalihi wassallam) unacceptable though we try to renconcile the reports but it doesnt work.
     
    Ubaid, Nov 4, 2008
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  5. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    i was at a gathering the other day and a mawlana from lahore, mawlana tajwiduddin, talked about rasulAllah sallAllahu 'alaihi wasallam seeing the ruku' and khushu' of the sahaba during salah.

    he then quoted hafiz 'asqalani that this was because the seal of prophethood [muhr e nabuwat] had two eyes in it. he said imam 'ayni says this might be so but i don't believe that rasulAllah sallAllahu 'alaihi wasallam was dependent on these eyes to see behind him because he did not remove the cloth on his back to help these eyes see.

    i can't remember if he continued to quote imam 'ayni or not but he said when jibreel performed shaqq e sadr; he saw two eyes on the blessed heart and these are the eyes which helped rasulAllah sallAllahu 'alaihi wasallam see the khushu' of people.

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    can anyone verify any of this?
     
    Aqdas, Nov 3, 2008
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  6. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    when the sahaba used to pray rasoolullah sallallahu 'alaihi wassalam once (or sometimes) said to the effect of perform prayers properly i see behind me as i see in front. i remember reading muhaddithin such as imam nawawi shafi'i said this was not a miracle only in salah but at all times.

    subhan Allah!

    and then i was reading jaa al haq where ayat al kursi is discussed and the verse ya'alamu maa bayna aydihim wama khalfahum is pointed out by mufti ahmad yar khan. i think he wrote this is na'at of mustafa 'alaihis salam.
     
    Aqdas, Mar 22, 2006
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