Sh. Muddasir Hussain-sunnitalk scholar

Have the Tafdili's dealt with issues properly? Remember when they made Pir Alla ulDin and themselves into a laughing stock?
What about that comedian Nisar Baig who got fried on DM by the Twelver Rafidi's and couldn't answer simple points? And when it came to Pir Siddiquie he acted like a gangster and was very rude.

That is your Ulama behave so why are you crying about how kids on the net behave? If Maulvis behave like thugs how will kids on the net behave?

 

That is true. When Pir Naseer alDin came in the late 90's he even addressed the issue and said people should leave this debate.

 

Abu Fadl I don't need to lie about anything. I am a human and can mistakes but as far as my memory serves me right its a very old speech. All this Tafzili stuff started in 1999 I think.

 

refuting tafzilis 12 years ago? ...It's easier to admit you are liars.

I have no issue in people refuting Afzaliat-e-Ali as long it's proper people done in a proper manner, I am interested in the discussion myself but on a sincere ilmi level. You guys are not doing this for deen and that's clear from your lies and sly approach.

 

Abu Fadl we don't have to explain or defend anyone in front of you. All I know is that the Shaykh is Saheeh ul Aqeedah and needs to be respected, you will attack him obviously because he refutes Tafzilis.

 

What about this upcoming Tafdili student of AbdulQadir Shah?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfMLaJvzBrk

Here he debates a Dawat e Islami member!!

 

If he is immature he should avoid giving such bold speeches (about rifz and tashayyu'). We know what Ala Hazrat says about such people taking the stage.

What's sad is that on the Iman Abu Talib issue there is a Molana Sb in the back (who he calls Mufti) egging the poor young man on.

12 years ago he was talking about the issue of tafzil?? Wow he was way ahead of his time...or do I smell a lie.

 

Shaykh Muddasir Hussain was very in experienced at the time, this video is about 10 to 12 years old, but Alhumdulillah he has improved very well now. He was on Ummah Channel recently in a Question & Answer program in English.

Yes Urdu might not be his stronger language but at least he has to be rated that he didn't claim copy rights for that video like Hasnain Shah did on his videos begging Dr Malik Liaqaut of DMTV.

 

Agreed he needs to stop talking like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBzbrX-gP2k

Abu Fazl await your answers on the Debate threads.

 

Iman of Abu Talib is a valid position.

It is the position of Imam Barzanji, Imam Zayni Dahlan and Ustad ul Ulama Ata Muhammad Bandyalwi.

It is a strong view in terms of evidence and cannot be dismissed.

 

Allahu Akbar Kabeera

The Imaan of Abu Talib issue is not from the dururiyaat Ahl al Sunnah, it is an ikhtilaafi mas'alah and it should not be made in to an issue.

 

I understand he may be the prime student of Mashaddi Shah Sb but I have a couple of concerns:

Is it from Maslak-e-Ala Hazrat to curse shia? (i.e. lanat). As far as I know Ala Hazrat does not curse Shia?

Secondly, if believing in the Imaan of Abu Talib is a rafzi belief then what does Mashaddi Sh Sb and others say about Shaikh-ul-Islam Khwaja Qamar-ud-Din Silawi? What about Pir Karam Shah Sb al-Azhari who also wrote on his imaan as well as most Chishtis believing the same; in fact the Golra Sharif Syeds also state he was a momin (and not no ordinary momin for that matter).
Prof. Tahir-ul-Qadri also holds that he was a momin and has a few lectures on the topic. Is he asserting that these people are rafzi or shia??

Plus I did not really get the "moo band" part when he was talking about differences between Mujaddid Sb and Ala Hazrat?

By the way, for young scholars it makes a good idea to learn the name of the book before going on stage instead of struggling on stage (as he did with Ala Hazrat's risala).

I think some lessons in Urdu would do him some good too (if he wants to speak in that language) - that's just some advice for the young shaikh.

 

He is right. It is illegal in Sharia'h for Sunnis to watch, participate, listen to any programs by the different shia groups or conducted by mufaddila to commemorate the blessed Ahl al Bayt.

Usually in matam processions of shias, or their programs, half the population attending are Sunnis. Incase of mufaddila programs in walthamstow, I am sure the majority of those attending are innocent Sunnis. It must be made clear, it is Haraam for Sunnis to even watch any type of mourning that the rawafiz do.

Coming from a twelver shia country, and a very twelver shia context, I know why twelvers carry out juloos, ziljina, 'azza programs in what they call husseiniyas etc.

In the Middle East, they are not allowed to go through Sunni areas in 95% of cases. However, in Syria, they were allowed to go through Masjid Umawi, and main Sunni bazaars of Damascus, in front of Sunnis of Syria, openly, disrupting everything. Even though, 99% of these twelvers doing matam were foreigners mainly pakistanis and iraqis.

InshaAllah, with the revolution in Syria, this will all end now. Every alien twelver shia will be kicked out of damascus, and their illegal schools closed down in Damascus.

inshaAllah

 

New up and coming scholar of sunnitalk and student of Pir Irfan Shah Mashaddi on Maslak-e-Ala Hazrat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGjiEmAQeTk&feature=related