Shahid Ali's New Post

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  1. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

  2. Ahmed Rida

    Ahmed Rida New Member

    I disagree there misbahi sb, it’s two weeks two months or mostly 2 years
     
  3. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Well over two decades.
     
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  4. Abdullah Ahmed

    Abdullah Ahmed Well-Known Member

    Beshak
    No doubt about it
    These works are masterpieces that I’m sure have made Ala Hazrat proud and smile in his blessed Qabr
     
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  5. Abdullah Ahmed

    Abdullah Ahmed Well-Known Member

    ما شاء الله
    Every paragraph of this description of Mawlana and his work, if read out in speech form, would make me want to stand up and shout Naraai Takbir!!! and Naraai Risaalat!!!
    ما شاء الله
     
  6. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    same here. I wouldn't bother with any new comer if it hadn't been for him being posted on here.

    Mawlana has a track record of nearly two decades (if you consider 2003 as the starting year) guiding the English speaking Sunni community, defending Alahazrat and Sunni aqaid, exposing deviants, expounding fiqhi juziyat, and pertinent naseeha based on tasawwuf and sunnah.

    All of this has made him stand out as a benchmark - if he approves - we feel safe in trusting the individual or mas'ala.

    He debuted his book authorship with Truth About A Lie - bringing us commoners (including those on the other side of the fence) upto speed with the background to the imkaan-al-kazib heresy. This book literally brought the specialist jargon of Ilm al Kalaam within the ken of the beginner student.

    The follow-up work "The Killer Mistake" dispatched keller with his hubris to his rat hole in Jordan from whence he has ventured no more than an occasional squeak.

    If Mawlana had written nothing more than these two works, they would still suffice to place him in the front ranks of Islamic scholarship in English.

    Book after book, paper after paper has served the Sunni cause and punctured the pretensions of our detractors.

    The idea that he is "anonymous" is laughable. He is well known and well received and his work and words carry the weight of authority.

    Shahid sab with all his videos and facebook sermons remains the "unknown" and "anonymous" entity. His antecedents are opaque and his calibre not yet undergone the long and sobering process of public scrutiny.

    We know hardly anything about his capabilities and learning - and the little that we do know isn't particularly encouraging.

    When our aslaaf said that you must be discreet about who you take your deen from - they didn't mean you must ask for his phone number, home address and two passport sized photgraphs duly notarized.

    They meant that you must verify his aqidah and character and learning, to the best of your abilities - and not lend an ear to every boisterous speechmaker.

    By that standard - mawlana is not just well known but in fact a touchstone to know others by.

    The proof of his expertise is in the proverbial pudding while shahid sab hasn't even brought his milk to boil - and if he doesn't look sharp, he will end up curdling it altogether.

    May Allah Guide us all.
     
  7. Ahmed Rida

    Ahmed Rida New Member

    sorry did imam shahid really say ‘Sanad and Ijazah’?

    Hasn’t Mufti Wajid Iqbal got sanad? Has mufti Aslam bandyalvi taken it back from him? Is Mufti Wajid still
    Sulh kuli according to you? If so then why hasn’t mufti Aslam taken ijazah back from him? Thanks
     
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  8. Ahmed Rida

    Ahmed Rida New Member

    I’m still waiting on Imam shahid ali to call
    Out Pir Maruf shah and ahsan shah sulh kullis, are wages more important than aqeedah?

    Since Imam Shahid ali has jazba shouting Quran sunnah and shariah, I am waiting for Imam shahid to label them sulha kullis and also expose jti employing Sayyid Irfan shah and now allowing haq khateeb badsha using their platform to promote stuff goes against ‘Quran sunnah and shariah’. Does Imam shahid ali agree pir maruf and ahsan shah are sulh kullis? Does imam shahid agree that haq khateeb badsha is a charlatan if so why hasn’t he called out jti?
     

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  9. Ahmed Rida

    Ahmed Rida New Member

    Wow the same Imam shahid ali really praised the anonymous Abu Hasan when he praised his work SubhanAllah! Takbir! Allah Hu Akbar
     
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  10. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    word.

    i once listened to a narration by a Turkish imam regarding one student-teacher interaction during the Ottoman era. one student was overzealous to write a book on some topic and kept seeking his teacher's permission repeatedly pestering him. finally the teacher gave in and asked him to write it. he duly wrote his work and handed it over to the teacher for review. the teacher returned it to him without a single drop of wax. now in those days people wrote on coarse paper with ink and there was no delete or autocorrect or correction fluid to rectify an error. the teachers would drop some melted wax on their students' works wherever they noted any errors. the student was overjoyed and happily went running back to the teacher saying 'ustad, really you found no mistakes in my work? i didn't see a single drop of wax in it. the teacher smiled and told him, 'son, that's why i was stopping you from writing. in this case, i'll just have to dip your entire book in molten wax!'

    abu Hasan's case is the exact opposite here. sorry if the anecdote is out of place. was the only one i could think of to make my point by mentioning that our brother's case is the exact opposite. i don't "like" abu Hasan's posts in general coz i'd have to "like" all of them. even otherwise, my "liking" of posts is very haphazard as it's only an auxiliary feature of forum usage.

    yes, at times we do disagree on matters of maslaha/mafsada or other juz'iyat and on occasions even very staunchly/harshly so in my case, and i wouldn't be shy to do it again, 'coz we are, or should be, a people who hold deen and principles above all else and stand our ground for benefit of deen and Sunniyat. our elders from the sahaba and aimma too disagreed passionately at times. we're simply not a cult. not saying this to suggest that i'm on equal footing to abu Hasan (i'm far from it), but because that's how we ought to be as Muslims and Sunnis.

    all in all it's simply shamelessness to not appreciate abu Hasan as a major contributor to Sunniyat in general in english (even aside from the Barelwi devbandi issues) or write him off as an anonymous entity on the internet. it stinks of nothing other than hasad, even if it comes from a respectable Sunni mufti. we all know the quality of his work and critiques.

    this:

     
  11. Abdullah Ahmed

    Abdullah Ahmed Well-Known Member

    exactly this
    Very beautifully stated
    ما شاء الله

    the only reason I even know about Imam Shahid Ali is because his videos were promoted on this very forum

    the only (main) reason I even left deobandiyyat for sunniyat was because of TKM written by Mawlana Abu Hasan

    the only reason love of Ala Hazrat was really instilled into my heart was because of Mawlana Abu Hasan’s written biography of Ala Hazrat

    if anyone truly represents Brelwiyat/Sunniyat/Ala Hazrat in the English Language today, then its none other than Mawlana Abu Hasan (As far as I’m aware).

    This forum has taught me much of what I know and understand today about Sunni Aqeedah

    there are many books that are listed and promoted by Mawlana Abu Hasan on this forum and within the bibliographies/footnotes of the works he has written, that have benefitted me immensely

    there are many posts of Mawlana Abu Hasan that should literally be written in gold because of the weight that they carry and the benefit they give

    on that note, I think it would be beneficial if we can take all of Mawlana Abu Hasan’s golden posts that are full of knowledge, and combine them in one thread, perhaps we can name it
    “Maktubat e Abu Hasan”

    ما شاء الله

    wallahu Alam
     
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  12. Khanah

    Khanah Well-Known Member

    Those screenshots re imam shahid... Where to begin. So many things spring to mind but the first are the following:

    1. Imam shahid seems like a keen reader of sunniport yet ignores the questions we raise about him. Such as the jti situation etc.

    2. Rather than post on the forum himself, he likes to instigate others into doing so. 'you could post x or y if you want. Really, it's upto you, I'm just suggesting'. Look at the time delay in the messages too, he clearly wanted to keep that thread alive through proxies.

    Imam saab, go ahead and make an account in your name and let's get a sh. Asrar-esque thread going.
     
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  13. Khanah

    Khanah Well-Known Member

    Would imam shahid be able to tell us whether we're able to take knowledge from people employed by sulh kulli organisations such as his own employers?

    Are we able to take knowledge from people who hang around people such as zain Al aktab, a person who holds the kufriya belief of indwelling and has yet to publicly distance himself from that individual?

    Just wondering.
     
  14. Juwayni

    Juwayni Veteran


    Hazrat, you seem to be a popular guy. You got a response from Mawlana Shahid himself ~an hour after you posted.
     

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  15. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    We are living in the digital age and in this time, Shaykh Abu Hasan has no peer in propagating the maslak of Alahazrat in the English language. May we continue to benefit from him and his works. Aameen.
     
  16. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    Not to mention this very same Shahid Ali sahib himself was in touch with Abu Hasan sahib regarding Shaykh Asrar before he launched his video attacks.

    What a hypocrite!
     
  17. barelwi

    barelwi New Member

    Besides the fact that a certificate is largely insignificant, does a doctor not displaying his degree mean he is not qualified? Does an engineer who doesn't parade his qualifications mean he is incapable? Shaykh abu Hasan opting to maintain anonymity does not mean he is unqualified, has not studied, has no ijazah, or no credentials.

    His work itself is his credential, and his anonymity is inconsequential.
     
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  18. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Shahid Ali: We cannot take religion from unidentified entities and web forums and chats of unknown individuals on the internet and cyberspace.

    Also Shahid Ali: We will use the internet and cyberspace to release dubious and idiotic videos to gather crowds, likes, and comments and support from unknown individuals by slandering and leveling accusations of sulh kulliyat on KNOWN shuyukh of the Ahlus Sunnah who ACTUALLY TEACH in brick and mortar mosques!

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    Shahid Ali: We wouldn't go to a doctor, lawyer, or engineer who possesses no identity or qualification.

    AbdalQadir: True. But in every city there are enough quack doctors and homeopaths, bogus inept lawyers, as well as incompetent engineers who DO possess identity and qualification. Beware of them too. Likewise, there are incompetent buffoons ABusing the titles of "allamah's" and "muftis". Steer clear of them too.
     
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  19. Bazdawi

    Bazdawi Active Member

    interesting to see how both imam shahid ali and imam asad alli are coming out with the same points regarding knowledge being confined to a certificate.

    ala hazrat says ‘a certificate means nothing’ whilst imam shahid alli, imam asad alli and others believe it it’s impossible for knowledge to be found except with a certificate.

    perhaps this is because if we were to use competency and capability as benchmarks, then these people would have nowhere to go. rather leech of a piece of paper and parade as big shaykhs, mufti and mawlanas than actually presenting scholarly work.

    allamah abu hasan’s work speaks for itself. what fault is it of the sun if the bats are unable to see it?
     
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  20. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    some people's work speaks. The rest have my best wishes.

    non quis sed quid
     
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