Shameless Lies of Devbandi Jamiat ul Juhala Gauteng South Africa

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    The following was uploaded on the Jamiat ul ulema Gauteng South Africa's website,and mass emails were spread like fire during the last month with no real grounded answer to cut their devilish claims apart.

    http://www.thejamiat.co.za/index.ph...who-the-barelwis-are&catid=70:bidah&Itemid=37

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    "" Please elaborate on, who are the Barelwi's?
    Q & A - Bid'ah
    Question: “What do the Ulama of the Deen say regarding the following question: Does the Zaat [Being] of Allah Ta’ala – Glorious is His Name – have the attribute of kithb [falsehood] or not? Does Allah Ta’ala speak lies or not? How shall a person who says that Allah speaks lies be described? Elaborate and you will be rewarded [by Allah Ta’ala].
    Answer:
    Every now and again the Grave Worshipping Barelwi sect releases its worn out and monotonous papers of canards, half-truths and pure slander at the eminent Ulama and Awliya of the Ummah. Since the public do not have access to the references or are unacquainted with the language the Bareilwis brazenly cite kitaabs’ names in an attempt to mislead the unwary.
    This trait of deception and slander has been inherited by the Qabar Pujaari sect from their spiritual father, the ‘a’la hazrat’ of the grave worshippers. His name was Ahmed Raza Khan. He had throughout his life conspired against the illustrious Ulama of Islam – the Ulama of Deoband – in cloak and dagger fashion. Then in 1323 Hijri he departed for Haj. After the Haj he stayed over at Makkah Mu’azzamah and compiled a treatise of slander and vilification of the Ulama of Deoband. He cunningly addressed the question of the Qadiaanis first and followed it up with a question and response on the Ulama of Deoband. He sought to pull wool over the eyes of unknowing people by portraying the Ulama of Deoband to be a deviant sect, on par to the Qaadianis. Then he attempted to secure the endorsement and signatures of the Ulama of Haramain Shareefain for his vitriolic slander. The Ulama of Haramain answered according to the questions prepared. After considerable behind the scenes shenanigans Ahmed Raza published his pamphlet of lies and slander.
    When the Ulama of Haramain Shareefain were informed of the satanic scheme of this deviate they prepared a set of 26 questions for the Ulama of Deoband. The two most senior Ulama of Deoband, Hazrat Moulana Qaasim Saheb and Hazrat Moulana Rasheed Ahmed Saheb (Rahmatullahi alaihima) had in the meantime passed away. Hazrat Moulana Khaleel Ahmad Saheb responded to the questions. The answers were fully in accord with the Aqeedah of the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama’ah. Ulama of Haramain Shareefain from all four Math-habs and even the senior Ulama from Misr (Egypt) and Shaam (Syria) fully endorsed the answers and confirmed the correctness of the Beliefs of the Ulama of Deoband.
    The same set of lies and slander were fed to the Ulama of Haramain. When they sought clarification they realized the dishonesty and deceit of Ahmed Raza Khan. This in a nutshell is the background to the pack of lies disgorged every now and then by Raza Khan’s offspring following in their mischievous father’s footsteps. What kind of Imaan and integrity do these grave worshipping bid’atis possess that they keep on harping on the lies fed to them by their spiritual head? It appears that festering on falsehood is an addiction to them. In front of ignoramuses they can pass off their dirty lies, but with the Fadhl of Allah Ta’ala they will never be able to hoodwink intelligent and discerning people. Their slanderous accusations against the Awliya of Allah shall be exposed. In fact, Allah Ta’ala will expose them for what they are, rotten liars. Allah Ta’ala warns these Bareilwi bid’atis that whosoever hurts His Wali, an ultimatum of war is given to the scoundrel. We will now proceed to remove the haze of confusion and scepticism which the Bareilwi grave worshippers have cast on you. And Taufeeq comes only from Allah Ta’ala.
    Their Hallucinated False Belief 1
    The allegation that according to the Ulama of Deoband, “Allah can speak lies” is a blatant slander. Never did our illustrious Akaabir make such a vile statement. Only brains suffering from the touch of Shaitaan can utter such a vile statement. These bid’atis take pleasure in concocting such evil and wicked statements. This should be a window to their mind-set. We present here the translation of an Istifta (question) and the Fatwa (verdict) from Hazrat Moulana Rashid Ahmad Gangohi’s Fataawa Rasheediyyah germane to this calumny.
    The Zaat of Allah Ta’ala is pure and holy, beyond being attributed with the quality of kithb [falsehood/lies]. May Allah Ta’ala protect us. Never ever is there the slightest vestige of falsehood in His Kalaam [Words]. Allah Ta’ala says [in the Qur’aan]:
    ‘And who is more truthful than Allah in word?’
    Whoever believes with regard to Allah Ta’ala or says verbally that Allah speaks lies is an absolute kaafir and mal’oon [accursed]. Such a person is an adversary of the Qur’aan, the Hadeeth and the Ijma’ of the Ummah. Never is he a Mu-min.
    ‘Allah Ta’ala is Most High and Above what [falsehood] the transgressors speak.’ (Qur’aan)”

    It is the unanimous belief of all people of Imaan, however, that while Fir’oun, Haamaan and Abu Jahl, for example, have been proclaimed by the Qur’aan to be absolute Jahannamis [inmates of the Fire], nevertheless, Allah Ta’ala has the power to grant them Jannat although He will not do so. He has not been rendered impotent [by His promise]. He says [in the Qur’aan]:
    ‘And if We desire, we can give every person guidance, but from Me has been issued the decree that, verily I shall fill Jahannam with all of jinnkind and mankind.’
    It is evident from this Verse that if Allah Ta’ala had willed, He would have made everyone Mu-min. But what He has proclaimed already, He will not act in contradiction thereof. All this is by the volitional power of Allah, not by compulsion. [Whatever He does is by His discretionary power and will.] He does whatever He wishes. This is the belief of the Ummah and hence in the Tafseer of Allah Ta’ala’s statement, ‘If You (O Allah) forgive them..,’ Qaadhi Baidhaawi [the great Mufassir] says: ‘There being no forgiveness for shir’k is the effect of the wa’eed [warning of Allah that He will not forgive shir’k]. Thus, with regard to forgiveness, there is no impossibility in the Zaat of Allah Ta’ala. [In other words, Allah Ta’ala still has the power to forgive even the mushrik, if He so wishes. His wa’eed over shir’k has not curtailed His power, Na’uthu Billah.]” (End of quote from Fataawa Rasheediyyah)
    The above Fatwa of Hazrat Moulana Rasheed Ahmad Gangohi (Rahmatullahi alaih) was posed, in fact, by the Ulama of Makkah Mukarramah, and Ulama of all four Math-habs – Hanafi, Maaliki, Shaafi’i and Hambali – endorsed the response saying that it was the inexorable Haq.
    From the above verdict of Hazrat Moulana Rasheed Ahmad Gangohi (Rahmatullahi alaih) the facts abundantly clear for all seekers of the Truth are:
    He never said Allah Ta’ala speaks a lie or spoke a lie or will ever speak a lie.
    He declared as kaafir and accursed a person who holds the view that Allah Ta’ala speaks lies or that the attribute of kithb is associated with him.
    He affirms the belief of the Ahlus Sunnah that Allah Ta’ala has not lost any of His Qudrat in declaring shir’k to be unpardonable.
    In spite of the emphatic endorsement of this Fatwa of Hazrat Moulana Rasheed Ahmad Gangohi (Rahmatullahi alaih) by the Ulama of Makkah Mukarramah, the Devil-in-Chief subsequently still laboured to squeeze a fatwa of kufr from the Ulama of Haramain and after Moulana Gangohi passed away he cunningly released his pamphlet of deceit and slander which was then rebutted by Hazrat Moulana Khaleel Ahmad with his response to the twenty-six questions posed by the Arab Ulama.
    The Barelwis Displaying their Ignorance with their Slander of Hazrat Moulana Isma’eel Saheb Shaheed (Rahmatullahi Alaih) in their False Belief 2
    Hazrat Moulana Isma’eel Saheb was a true Aalim of the Deen and Mujaahid in the Path of Allah Ta’ala. He spent his entire life for the sake of the Deen. He is in the crosshairs of the grave worshipping sect, however, for his outspoken criticism of acts of bid’ah, shir’k and dark innovation. His wonderful work,Taqwiyatul Imaan, robustly tackles the bid’aat of the times and demolishes the spurious arguments of the votaries of bid’ah. He has, therefore, earned the wrath of the Qabar Pujaari sect and is particularly targeted for vitriolic slander. He was martyred in the Battle of Balakot, fighting the imperialist British proxies, the Sikhs. May Allah Ta’ala grant him Jannatul Firdaus, Aameen.
    The objection levelled by the Barelwis which is in fact stale and worn out, inherited by their devious elders, is another example of the bigotry and copro-mentality of this sect. A simple Urdu statement is rendered literally to convey the impression that Hazrat Moulana Shaheed Saheb (Rahmatullahi alaih) believed in the Mubaarak Body of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) disintegrating in his qabr, Na’uthu-Billah, whereas this is furthest from the truth.
    Qais Bin Sa’d, a Sahaabi returned from Hirah – a city in Iraq – and mentioned to Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) that he had seen the people there prostrating (making sajdah) to their ruler. Hazrat Qais (Radhiyallahu anhu) told Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) that he (Rasoolullah) was more deserving of being prostrated to. In response Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) asked: “Tell me, if you happen to pass by my grave will you make sajdah to it?” Hazrat Qais (Radhiyallahu anhu) replied: “No.” Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) then said: “Thus, do not (make sajdah to me).”(Sunan Abi Dawood)
    Explaining Rasoolullah’s (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) response Hazrat Moulana Isma’eel Shaheed Saheb expressed in figurative expression that it meant: “I will also die and be mixed in sand. So where am I worthy of being made sajdah to?”
    The purport is clear. Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) said that he will also be put into a qabr. He will not live in this world forever. He is not a god and will hence pass over to his life in the qabr – the Aalam-e-Barzakh. Since he is not a god, sajdah should never be made to him. This is the simple meaning which Moulana Isma’eel Saheb Shaheed (Rahmatullahi alaih) conveyed. He did not at all mean by, “mixed in sand,” that the blessed body of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) would become decomposed, as these copro-minded grave-worshippers have fabricated and disseminated. May Allah Ta’ala save us from such falsehood which reflects on the utter profanity the bid’atis relish in respect to Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam). They unabashedly utter vile concocted statements and attribute the garbage to the Ulama of Deoband finding gratification in their insults to the Habeeb of Allah (Sallallahu alaih wa sallam). They will not escape the Wrath of Allah Ta’ala for the immense hurt they continuously inflict upon Sayyidul Mursaleen (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam).
    It is salutary to mention that the above Hadeeth of Hazrat Qais debunks the bid’ah and shir’k of the Barelwi sect. Their acts of bowing, making tawaaf and even prostrating to graves and hence the appellation, the grave-worshipping sect, all come fully within the stricture of Rasoolullah’s declaration, “Then do not (worship me.)”
    Their False Belief 3
    In their “False Belief 3” they accuse Hazrat Moulana Shah Isma’eel Saheb (Rahmatullahi alaih) of belittling Nabi Kareem (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam). In response to this slander we submit that Hazrat Nizaamud-Deen Awliya whose qabr the Barelwi bid’atis worship at Nizaamud-Deen, Delhi states in his kitaab,Fawaaidul Fuaad: “No person’s Imaan will be perfect until all creation are equal to the dropping of a camel in his sight.” Whatever interpretation the grave-worshippers labour to give to this statement of Hazrat Sultaanji (Rahmatullahi alaih), will be our response to their slander directed at Hazrat Isma’eel Shaheed (Rahmatullahi alaih). Hazrat Shaheed (Rahmatullahi alaih) said, “cobbler,”whereas Sultaanji (Rahmatullahi alaih) whose urs the bid’atis celebrate with pomp and pride says, “dropping of a camel!”
    Their Devious False Belief 4
    The level these bida’atis sink to in slandering the Ulama-e-Haq with rubbish accusations leaves one aghast at the evil and filth these grave worshippers conceal in their sensorium. The words of the Akaabir are mutilated and quoted out of text to give the impression to the unsuspecting masses that the Akaabir Ulama were audaciously disrespectful to Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam). The distorted quotation from Shah Isma’eel Saheb’s kitaab, Siraatul Mustaqqeem is another example of the skulduggery this bid’ati sect is adept at.
    Firstly, Hazrat Shaheed (Rahmatullahi alaih) did not say it is permissible to think of an ox and donkey in Salaat. The bid’atis are guilty of misquoting Hazrat Shaheed (Rahmatullahi alaih). Secondly, Hazrat Moulana Shah Isma’eel Saheb’s exact words confirm the greatness of Nabi Kareem (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam). It is known or should be known that shir’k is to pay homage to a created being; to assign partners in the Sublime Zaat or Exclusive Sifaat (Attributes) of Allah Ta’ala. The greater the homage is paid to the created entity the greater the shir’k. And it is obvious that homage to Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) will be greater than worship to a cow or other animal by a mushrik. Thus, the shir’k in relation to the greatest of creation, Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) will be worse than the shir’k paid to other creation in view of the deference to Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) invariably being greater.
    Hazrat Shaheed’s words can be easily understood now in the light of this explanation. He says: “To devote one’s attention to one’s shaikh or any other buzrug, be it Rasoolullah (sallallahu alaihi wa sallam), is worse than to concentrate on one’s ox or donkey.” Further he says: “The thought of the shaikh is impressed in the heart with veneration and greatness, while the thought of an ox or donkey is ignoble. This veneration and deference in Salaat of anyone besides Allah leads one to shir’k.”
    Hazrat Shaheed (Rahamtullahi alaih) was closing the avenue of shir’k – excessive veneration of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaih wa sallam) leading to shir’k – as some Shuyookh of Tasawwuf of that time had instructed their mureedeen to engross themselves in the thought of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam), even during Salaat. The danger in this ta’leem is evident. Now that the full context and purport of Hazrat Moulana Isma’eel Saheb’s (Quddisa Sirruhu) words have been understood, the degree of skulduggery adopted by the Barelwi sect to present Hazrat Shaheed’s words to an unwary public as denigration of the lofty rank and status of Nabi Kareem (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) can be adequately gauged. They are the party guilty of insult and denigration of Allah’s Rasool (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam).
    Then, not just content with calumny at the Ulama of Deoband, they attribute the following falsehood to the illustrious Fuqha: “According to the Fuqaha (Jurists) it is Waajib to believe that the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) is observing you and he is aware of your actions.” By this the bid’atis refer to their concocted belief of Rasoolullah (sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) having Ilmul Ghaib or knowledge of the unseen, whereas the Qur’aan emphatically declares: “Say, only Allah knows of the unseen.” (Surah Ankaboot)
    The Aayat debunks the false aqeedah of the Barelwis in relation to Ilmul Ghaiband hence our Fuqaha – the Fuqaha of the Ahnaaf – state that such a belief in relation to Rasoolullah (Salllallahu alaihi wa sallam) is kufr. Whoever harbours this belief loses his Imaan and his nikaah becomes void.
    Their Corrupt False Belief 5
    The Barelwi sect belief of Nabi (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) being omnipresent as Allah Ta’ala is omnipresent, is unadulterated shir’k. They are the first deviant sect in Islam to concoct such a vulgar belief which militates violently against the teachings of the Qur’aan, Sunnah and Ijma’ of the Ummah.
    Their Interposed False Belief 6
    Hazrat Moulana Khaleel Ahmad Saheb (Rahmatullahi alaih) said in Baraaheen-e-Qaati’ah that to stand in the Meelaad gathering resembles the Hindu action of standing on the occasion of the hallucinated ‘birth’ of their deity, Kuhniyyah. The mushrik Hindus hallucinate the birth of this deity each year and consider it obligatory to stand in honour to this false god. The Barelwi bid’atis have borrowed this custom from their Hindu counterparts and thus they (the Barelwis), too, hallucinate the Birth of Rasoolullah (Sallalahu alaihi wa sallam) in their Meelaad gatherings and consider it waajib to stand. The similitude Moulana Khaleel Ahmed Saheb drew was the standing of the Barelwi bid’atis with the Hindus’ standing in their act of puja of Kuhniyyah, their deity’s mock birth.
    The fact that Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) would fast on Mondays in no way lends support the bid’ati’s in their emulation of the Hindu custom of standing for their deity’s annual mock birth.
    Their Baseless False Belief 7 and Calumny
    Allah Ta’ala declares at several places in the Qur’aan-e-Kareem: “Verily Allah has power over everything.” At another place He states: “He does whatever He wills and wishes.” Whilst Allah Ta’ala has the power to create another Nabi, He will not create another Nabi after the Seal of the Ambiya, Muhammad Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) as He has declared that Muhammad (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) is the Final Nabi. Thus, He will not desire so. The accusation the grave worshippers have spewed at Hazrat Moulana Shaheed (Rahmatullahi alaih) is therefore baseless. In their insane criticism of the Akaabir of Deoband they border on profanity. Their enmity for the Ulama-e-Haq makes their vision oblique. This dangerous oblique vision entraps them in being profane in regard to the Majesty and Might of Allah Subhaanahu Wa Ta’ala and in denigrating the honour of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam). Imam Ghazaali (Rahmatullahi alaih) accurately stated that oblique vision is worse than being blind. We seek Allah Ta’ala’s protection.
    In response to the citation from Tahzeerun Naas we defy the bid’ati’s to produce the original Urdu text of the calumny they have disgorged at Hazrat Moulana Qaasim Saheb. Nowhere in Tahzeerun Naas is the statement which they have attributed to him. This statement, in fact, is amongst the bile they have lapped up from their spiritual father and which they insanely regurgitate every now and then.
    Their Misunderstood False Belief 8
    The Qur’aan-e-Kareem states: “We have sent you (O Muhammad) purely as Rahmatullil Aalameen.” The Qur’aan does not say, “We have sent only you as Rahmatullil Aalameen.” The erroneous notion of the bid’atis should thus be manifest. It is not surprising at all that they lack understanding of basic Arabic and thus the erroneous meaning they have drawn from the Aayat of Surah Haj speaking of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) being sent asRahmatullil Aalameen, for their decidedly poor understanding of even Urdu texts which is the mother tongue of their elders from whom they have inherited their archive of lies, deceit and downright slander is evidenced by their profuse blunders in the texts they quote of our Akaabir.
    This then is the reality of the slanders which the Ahl-e-Bid’ah consider to be part and parcel of their grave worshipping cult. ""

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    Two things to note, they are deobandi bunch, and they play a major role in deceiving South African muslim youth masses into believing that they are representatives on understandings of Islam and practices of shariah, and that Deoband is a ground of Islamic safety.

    Another thing to note is that they are well organised in daily matters that affect muslims in the country at large, and this gains the trust of the unwary masses.

    unfortunately the sunni masses themselves dont have an organisation that is so well organised and imposes a large influence amongst the muslim masses.

    Ive requested responses from certain ulema, however still have not received any feedback. perhaps the response requires time to respond to.

    Can anyone assist in providing refutations to their claims,
     

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