Shaykh Asrar Rashid vs Abdul Rahman Hassan

A short clip of the debate between Shaykh Asrar Rashid & Abdur Rahman on the permissibility of Istigātha via the Messenger ﷺ

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=355837227873810&id=175229952601206

 

when will debate be uploaded?

 

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1089994234399896&id=285217404877587

 

shirk al-asbab
https://asharis.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/habib-ahmad-mashur-al-haddad-on-shirk/
imam al-sanusi says the same

 

Will the debate be streamed live on the internet?

 

@abu Hasan LoL

 

He is one of fifteen who will attend.

 

i watched his vid just now. abu taymiyyah only displayed his own ignorance. he doesn't know a basic thing about ijtihad and taqlid.

so it is these kids who will debate?

 

Perhaps you should just read a few books on uşūl on the chapters pertaining to taqlīd.

If you search the forum, there is a thread on this topic where I mentioned a number of books.

I had this same discussion with Mawlānā @abu Hasan - read the work posted by @Moriarty by Shaykh Ábd al-Ghanī [rahimahullāh].


Allāh knows best

 

Read
خلاصة التحقيق فى بيان حكم التقليد والتلفيق تأليف عبد الغنى النابلسى رحمه الله

and

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8E9Z57shYOkX3FfQXRYNFJ0MjQ/edit?pref=2&pli=1

 

Come Hajj time everyone becomes hanafi, because they need to hold their wives to keep them close , without breaking their wudu.

 

I heard it isn't good to switch between madhahib, for some issues in necessity then that is permitted but as for switching around then this isn't encouraged?

 

which books?

first I've ever heard that a person can switch between madhhabs for different actions: for hajj, he can follow the hanafi madhhab and for fasting he can decide to follow the shafi'i madhhab, while for zakat he can decide to follow the maliki madhhab. switching between madhhabs for different actions isn't doing taqlid of one imam.

what must he refer to himself as? a muqallid of whom?

 

edit: she* did it cuz of her jahl

 

Shaykh Asrar said something similar at around 28 min in this video. However, it seems that some part was edited out when Shaykh says-"He saw an old woman". So, I am not sure what Shaykh said in the actual speech though he did quote Shaykh as-Shatti saying that he would teach the old woman basic tawhid.

 

Yes that confused me too

 

Shaykh Asrar says at around 59 min:
"..we have to be very specific with each case. If the old woman, when she goes to the grave, you say to her-"You are asking this man in the grave. He can't benefit you because he's passes away. He is in Barzakh.". She says-"Oh, I believe that Allah ha given him qudrah to help me." The qudrah is makhluk of Allah subhan wa ta'ala. Allah subhana wa ta'ala giving qudrah like he has given you and me qudrah. This woman will not be declared Mushrik.. a mushrika. Why? Because, she may be.. she is mukhti'a"
Then he says that he did it cuz of her jahl.
Can anyone please explain it to me that how is the old woman at fault?

 

i still think that you are making a mountain of a molehill. i did not say "somalis are heretics" - i only said "the heretic somali". until you brought it up, i didn't even imagine it to be a racist comment. if he were pakistani or indian, i would have said that pakistani heretic or an indian heretic. khayr, let us not argue about it. i will call him abdur-Rahman.

happy?

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extreme PC. i am an indian, and if someone said "that indian fellow" i would not feel bothered in the least. perhaps i just don't know.

i know many somali brothers, even qadiris (traditionally somalis were ash'ari-shafiyi and qadiris/idrisis) but your charge is ridiculous.

thanks for the naSiHah.

thanks, once again.

 

@abu Hasan- I do agree about your point about verbal debates and a written debate is a better yardstick to judge the level of one’s scholarship and the strength of their points. However, to compare with Bukari etc with Somali is not correct because those names are attached (none of them are references to ethnicity) to those scholars and they become known by that. However, to attach someone’s ethnicity to their name is pointless and could be construed as racist.I am sure that was not your intention but it does not reflect well on someone who is in charge of this forum. I am not being hyperactive or politically correct but this is a public forum and who knows, we might have some Somalian brothers on this forum- what will they think.

Also, instead of pursuing a worthless approach of addressing a deviant, as an particular animal, pursue an approach, where the point is refuted and by default so is the one making it. Apart from you hype loving companions; no one takes this approach seriously, which is a shame because when you do actually tackle a point, you do an excellent job.


@Harris786, 'Ch Saab the Imam Sahiban are currently in Africa but their Du'a are with you' – this post just shows what you are, a complete joke, whose points are pointless and it is people like you that make Sunnis look like uneducated, extreme and sectarian . You are known to be a troublemaker on social media and I cannot understand why your views are tolerated here. Grow up!

 

Abu Taymiyah says Ibn Abdul Barr Maliki toward the end.

Does that mean Ibn Abdul Barr was a muqalid of the Maliki?

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