Shaykh Shukri al-Luhafi on Shaykh Muhammad al-Yaqoubi

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  1. Sunni By Nature

    Sunni By Nature Active Member

    Shaykh Yaqoubi mentioned the narration of Ibn Umar as in Sunan ibn Majah but what he narrated is not fully found with that wording in that Hadith collection, Sunan ibn Majah has it as:

    3932- حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو الْقَاسِمِ بْنُ أَبِي ضَمْرَةَ ، نَصْرُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سُلَيْمَانَ الْحِمْصِيُّ ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ أَبِي قَيْسٍ النَّصْرِيُّ ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ عُمَرَ (1)، قَالَ : رَأَيْتُ رَسُولَ اللهِ صَلَّى الله عَليْهِ وسَلَّمَ يَطُوفُ بِالْكَعْبَةِ ، وَيَقُولُ : مَا أَطْيَبَكِ ، وَأَطْيَبَ رِيحَكِ ، مَا أَعْظَمَكِ ، وَأَعْظَمَ حُرْمَتَكِ ، وَالَّذِي نَفْسُ مُحَمَّدٍ بِيَدِهِ ، لَحُرْمَةُ الْمُؤْمِنِ أَعْظَمُ عِنْدَ اللهِ حُرْمَةً مِنْكِ ، مَالِهِ ، وَدَمِهِ ، وَأَنْ نَظُنَّ بِهِ إِلاَّ خَيْرًا.

    Maybe he was reading the Hadith from a paper and he added some of his own explanation when looking towards the congregation and it sounded like part of the wording of the Hadith when listening to the recording

    as for the Shaykh's supposed tweet "Human life is more precious than the Ka'ba.", without knowing the actual Arabic wording it will be difficult to trace it, the tweet does not seem to give it as an exactly worded Hadith but just a paraphrase of what may be in the original Hadith

    If people were really concerned they would have acquired his number and contacted him or even visited him in Morocco to seek clarification but that doesn't seem to be the goal of some of those on here
     
  2. kaydani1

    kaydani1 Active Member

    It is time for Yaqubites to come forward and either defend their cult leader, or change their ways and come back to their senses. The cult minion in the video has been unable to provide a reference to the forgery of Yaqubi in his Hadith on the killings.

    Cults are a disease, and they are becoming pandemic in Muslim communities. Every Pir is now establishing his own cult.
     
  3. kaydani1

    kaydani1 Active Member

  4. Moriarty

    Moriarty Veteran

    The statement posted by 'Sunni By Nature' is made by a Syrian who is a cult member. The statement of Abu Munir is more reliable as he is neautral on this.

    Yaqoubi Sahib and his cult are known to forge. Firstly there is the forgery of a hadith to appease non Muslims. It can't be said he was quoting the meaning as he was clearly quoting the forged wording in context of the Charlie Hebdo killings and upon those who were killed.

    One person attempted to say that Fatawa Ridwiya contains forgeries in order to justify his cult leaders forgery. Such absurd reasoning is the way when the mind has a capped lid tightly screwed by the cult setting.
    In the following video the cult member says Shaykh Abdullah Siraj alDin said Yaqoubi Sahib is 'the man of the time'.

    http://m.youtube.com/?hl=en-GB&gl=GB#/watch?v=wwKQmx8lUYs

    What is the source of this? Why does this cult and other sufi cults only make claims after shaykhs pass away?

    How many other fairy tales has Yaqoubi Sahib fed in to the minds of 'Barelawi' sufi oriented youth? People with 'pir prast' (blind adherence and veneration) backgrounds.

    Not to forget that Yaqoubi Sahib would want people to acknowledge that Akram Nadwi is a hadith master.
     
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  5. Abu Hamza

    Abu Hamza Well-Known Member

    *Please read between the lines
     
  6. kaydani1

    kaydani1 Active Member

    We would like the reference to the following Hadith*:

    QUOTE

    "He said, human life is more precious than the Ka'ba!"

    END QUOTE

    *Please read the quote carefully.
     
  7. ahlus-sunnah

    ahlus-sunnah Veteran

    Muslim Blood more Sacred than the Holy Ka`ba

    In the Targhib wa’ l-Tarhib of Imam al-Mundhiri, 3/276 it has the following Hadith from `Abd Allah ibn `Amr ibn al-`As (Allah be well pleased with him) that he said:

    “I saw the Messenger of Allah Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam performing Tawaf around the Holy Ka`ba saying to it: ‘how pure and good you are! how pure and good your fragrance is! how great and exalted you are! and how great and exalted your sanctity is! But by Him in Whose hand is Muhammad’s soul, the sanctity of a believer’s blood and property in the sight of Allah is greater than your sanctity!’

    رأيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يطوف بالكعبة ويقول ما أطيبك وما أطيب ريحك ما أعظمك وما أعظم حرمتك والذي نفس محمد بيده لحرمه المؤمن عند الله أعظم من حرمتك ماله ودمه

    Notes:

    1. The blood of a Muslim is sacred.
    2. Spilling Muslim blood is unlawful – without right.
    3. It’s sanctity is compared to that of the Holy Ka`ba and declared greater.
    4. The Muslim life and property must require protection and safeguarding.
    And Allah knows best.
     
  8. Abu Hamza

    Abu Hamza Well-Known Member




    In this clip [uploaded in 2011], the Shaykh quotes the hadith [the blood/property of a believer is more sacred than the ka'ba - narrated by Ibn Umar [radi'Allahu Anh] in the Sunan of Ibn Majah] & many more ahadith to that effect. However, the 'hadith' in question is not mentioned.

    Listen from 6:20

    [I couldn't find the relevant thread, apologies]
     
  9. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    people can have all the ijazahs in the world, but the litmus test is whether they have the courage to stand up for the religion of Allah?

    if yaqubi is really sincere and is not a phony sufi, he should be the first to condemn perennialism and its poster boys - will he have the courage to refute nasr, and the rest of the perennialist brigade? not to mention that shameless showman, hamza yusuf who has high regard for dante?

    will yaqubi's eloquence be employed in the service of the qur'an, and will he say anything about the study qur'an? we don't want polite disagreements, we want to see blunt refutation of that balderdash dished out by nasr and other murtaddeen.

    does yaqubi have the guts or the ghayrah to sacrifice his carefully cultivated cult and reputation for the defence of the qur'an?*

    only time will tell.

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    * the qur'an and this religion does not need anybody's defence. Allah ta'ala is its protector. but we should do what we should - if we speak up, we do it for our own sakes. wa billahi't tawfiq.
     
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2015
  10. kaydani1

    kaydani1 Active Member

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  11. Sunni By Nature

    Sunni By Nature Active Member

    Sayyid Shaykh Muhammad Abul Huda al-Yaqoubi posted a few pictures on his Arabic FB page on November 3rd 2015

    The pictures were of hand written documents regarding those who were given license/authorisation (ijazah) by the noble Sayyid Shaykh Muhammad al-Hashimi al-Tlemsani during his lifetime (to initiate aspirants into the spiritual path).

    Comments ensued, as they would, with people mentioning a dua or praising Allah etc.

    One of the comments has been translated below

    It came about after a few people commented with questions and clarifications.

    I gift this to all the lovers of the awliya and saaliheen

    Sidi Muhammad Qasim Abul-Huda al-Tahan, the servant of his master, Shaykh Shukri al-Luhufi narrated the following:

    “In the name of Allah the Most Gracious, Most Kind.

    After permission from my master, the highly learned, Shaykh Muhammad Abul Huda al-Yaqoubi, and for (the sake of) scientific integrity:

    I make Allah my witness that I heard (the following) from my master and mentor/educator, Shaykh Shukri al-Luhufi, whom I accompanied and served for approximately eight years, ever since I was 14 years old.

    Due to my young age and my love for him and his love for me, I would ask him a number of questions that no one else - even from amongst the great scholars - would ask.

    I once asked (Shaykh Shukri) if it was true that he had taken ijazah for the general and specific litany to instruct in meditation (dhikr), and enter aspirants into a spiritual isolation (khalwa) from our master (Shaykh Muhammad) al-Yaqoubi? He replied: ‘Yes, our master al-Yaqoubi graciously bestowed upon me, and authorised me with the specific litany’. (On one occasion) I deliberately posed the same question to Shaykh Shukri in front of my master Bahr as-Safa Abul Wafa, and the Shaykh replied with the same response.

    Shaykh Shukri traversed the (spiritual) path at the hands of Shaykh al-Hashimi, whom had initiated him with the litany, but had not authorised him. I asked the Shaykh (Shukri) about this, and he replied with what I have mentioned.

    As for what some have said, that Shaykh al-Hashimi had written an ijazah for Shaykh Shukri in his book, Miftahu-l-Jannah’, then that is a lie; I saw the book during the life of Shaykh Shukri, and I did not find anything except a gift from Shaykh al-Hashimi to Shaykh Shukri, along with his (Shaykh al-Hashimi) seal and signature, and nothing else.

    If we go back to the ijazah in the general litany for Shaykh Shukri from Shaykh al-Hashimi, we find it is not an explicit permission nor an ijazah. I heard the following anecdote from the mouth of Shaykh Shukri himself: the mother of Shaykh Shukri had wanted to take the general litany from Shaykh al-Hashimi , so her son, Shaykh Shukri requested it for her from Shaykh al-Hashimi. So Shaykh al-Hashimi replied: ‘you give her the litany (i.e. the general litany)’.

    Would you say it is correct to state that it was an ijazah in the general litany, let alone come to say it is an ijazah in the specific litany?

    I asked the Shaykh about this over and over again, and would ask him again at other times, and always the answer of the Shaykh was the same and never changed.

    O Allah I have conveyed! O Allah bear witness! And Allah is the One in Whom trust is placed as regards what we say.”
     

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