shaykh yaqubi on alahazrat

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  1. snaqshi

    snaqshi Active Member

    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

    The videos just demonstrate the sorry state of Islamic scholarship and further, whether we agree with ibne hasan or not his statement above is something we should all ponder on and pay detailed attention to because the reality of is that many of our own family members are becoming caught up in the web of the deviants and becoming beguiled by their deceitful use of primary texts:


    Sahih Bukhari 6531

    عن البخاري وَكَانَ ابْنُ عُمَرَ يَرَاهُمْ شِرَارَ خَلْقِ اللَّهِ وَقَالَ إِنَّهُمْ انْطَلَقُوا إِلَى آيَاتٍ نَزَلَتْ فِي الْكُفَّارِ فَجَعَلُوهَا عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ

    صحيح البخاري كِتَاب اسْتِتَابَةِ الْمُرْتَدِّينَ وَالْمُعَانِدِينَ وَقِتَالِهِمْ بَاب قَتْلِ الْخَوَارِجِ وَالْمُلْحِدِينَ بَعْدَ إِقَامَةِ الْحُجَّةِ عَلَيْهِمْ

    Ibn Umar, may Allah be pleased with him said, “Verily, they take verses that were revealed about unbelievers and make them against the believers.”
     
  2. ibnhasan

    ibnhasan New Member

    Dear respected Syed, the “promotion/progress” is self generating you have over 11 thousand views! Let them decide?

    What you do need to promote, is that your Pakistani/Indian Sunni “Punks” should unite their sunni/sufi scholars and eat less “Chicken Biryani” … 0therwise you will end up making these silly little boy fights:





    You should worry about the progress of your future generations and less hatred, disunity with your petty opinions/misunderstandings amongst your selves!
     
  3. Syed Ahmed Uwaisi

    Syed Ahmed Uwaisi Active Member

    Its no big deal Akhi Abdul Qadir, lets let this yong man Ibn Hasan air his thoughts.

    Ibn Hasan, it is strange how little of the debate you are grasping, making little girly fights with forum brothers will not bring you any progress in your promotion of these people, 'Shaykh' Yaqubi, Habib Ali, etc etc.
     
  4. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    no need for anyone to be taken for a ride.

    Allama Qibla Yaseen Akhtar Misbahi Sahib has himself stated in open communiques to Tajush Shari3ah and Muhaddithe Kabir that if someone can prove Irfan-e-Mazhab o Maslak to be full on sulah kulli or sulah kulli-leaning, then he will make public tawba and rujoo3.

    See these links please for some info on this and other closely related topics.

    http://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/embed_code/39897693#

    http://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/embed_code/39897636#

    http://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/embed_code/38934928#

    http://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/embed_code/39897670#

    the ulema of Bareily need to prove just how in the light of the Shari3ah some or all the ulema of Mubarakpur are sulah kulli or misguided, and how Qibla Yaseen Akhtar Sahib's Irfan-e-Mazhab o Maslak is a call to sulah kulliyat.

    they also need to prove that furoo3i differences on things like salah on train constitutes ikhtilaf on usul and manhaj necessitating public tawbah and rujoo3

    i hope this time the moderators won't be bullied by some members and let the links stay and let the topic go on in the spirit of justice, fairness and citing references from our Mazhab and Maslak!
     
  5. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    @inquisitive be careful lest you be taken for a ride. We are yet to know the name of the mysterious 'local mosque' where Owais qadri is supposed to have demanded £1500 for naath-khwani.
     
  6. snaqshi

    snaqshi Active Member


    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
    Salaam brother that wont be a problem pm me inshallah i will forward you what I have:)
     
  7. inquisitive

    inquisitive Well-Known Member

    MuHadith-e-Kabir Shaykh diya al Mustafa? If so, I have heard he's very strict in such matters and if you do make such a claim then you should provide some evidence.

    I know someone who knows someone close to the Shaykh and I can try to get a clarification if you want.
     
  8. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    horrible comment. If there were negative ratings, i would gave given you 10 of them
     
  9. Abu Hamza

    Abu Hamza Well-Known Member

    Abdul Qadir the point i was trying to make was quite simple but it seems that you were unable to comprehend it, but i think i made my point, learn some basic manners because it seems your parents havent raised you on the true Maslak of Imam Ahmad Rida Khan رحمه الله
     
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  10. ibnhasan

    ibnhasan New Member

    I thought you were done with the “Ego Trip” ?
    It’s not difficult check the: IP Address… it may Help!


     
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  11. Contemplating Sufi

    Contemplating Sufi New Member

    Majority of sayyids consists they not of. Bold claim by person with no evidence.
     
  12. Alf

    Alf Active Member

    I need some help in understanding this point: difference of opinion on fiqhi issues is tolerated. By 'tolerated' does it only mean the scholar who holds this view is not spoken badly of, or does it also mean following the different opinion introduced by the scholar by other people is tolerated?

    I have the the issue of 3 talaq and Ibn Taymiya's error regarding it in mind while I am asking this.
     
  13. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    ibnhasan, have you been here before?
     
  14. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    why don't you add some kind of a captcha form or something in the registration section to weed out the trolls? i've seen some people also ask answers to "what's 2+3=" or something like that.

    i'd suggest some defining question for a contemporary Sunni, and the question has been suggested (indirectly) by the troll himself.

    make it 3 simple multiple choice:
    choose only one answer for each question:

    1. Islam tolerates differences of opinions on:

    a) matters of fiqh (jurisprudence)
    b) matters of creed and faith
    c) both of the above
    d) none of the above

    2. Is inviting christians to a mosque asking them to worship according to their religion:

    a) a matter of jurisprudence
    b) a matter of creed and faith

    3. Saying that the weighty import of verse 22:17 is that it is theologically forbidden for Muslims to say that on the day of judgment polytheists, jews, christians, sabians, and magians will go to hellfire - is:

    a) a matter of jurisprudence
    b) a matter of creed and faith
     
  15. ibnhasan

    ibnhasan New Member


    How many sunni/sufi scholars and sayyids from the list I posted earlier have dissented and departed from the Group?


    "Allah's hand is over the group."
    "Allah's hand is over the group, and whoever dissents from them departs to hell."
    "My community shall never agree upon misguidance, therefore, if you see divergences, you must follow the greater mass or larger group."


    According to the minority on this Forum Majority of the sunni/sufi scholars and sayyids are no longer part of this Group! may Allah (SWT) guide us!



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    "Hold fast to the rope of Allah, all of you, and do not split into factions" (3:103).
    "And they were not divided until after the knowledge came unto them, through rivalry among themselves" (42:14).
    "O you who believe, obey Allah and obey the Prophet and thoseof authority among you" (4:59).
     
  16. snaqshi

    snaqshi Active Member


    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

    There you go again, anyone that disagrees with your "brand" of Islam they are deem either and idiot or a troll....:)
     
  17. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    confirmation that you are a troll.

    end of story.
     
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  18. Exposition

    Exposition Active Member

    The issues go beyond the hamza yusuf issue, IIRC.......there was some comments about not giving dawah, muslims marching with crosses? we shouldn't discuss aqida issues except in the classroom and that we shouldn't condemn Christians in Jumma speeches. the words against shaykh ramadan al bouti, claiming his not fit enough to do itjihaad.....this being demonstrated by a supposed fatwa he gave on being able to watch 'porn'......which when I investigated was not true at all. Wishy washy stance on democracy, secularism etc
     
  19. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    People seem to have difficulty in the notion that, in Islam, there is a difference between usuli and furuyi matters. Differences of opinion are allowed in furu (e.g. hanafi, shafiyi) but not in usul (e.g. perennialism is kufr).

    It is either downright ignorance or something more sinister to cite differences in furu and apply that exonerate those who differ in usul.
     
  20. snaqshi

    snaqshi Active Member

    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

    LOL i have never said our implied such a thing...........!
    Everyone has the choice to follow who they like coercion in not part of the deen last time i looked, no one is compelled to do anything in Islam, you follow what you deem fit according to your understanding.
     

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