side discussion on SP moderator abilities

Discussion in 'Bickering' started by abu Hasan, May 24, 2017.

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  1. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    well of course since your mufti sahib is an angel who reasons in the most objective fashion and without ad hominem attacks (whose samples can be seen here) and you yourself are a sincere fanboy, your outrage is quite understandable. Playing the victim is quite easy and usually the first trick in the bag to cover-up one's omissions. So please continue doing it.

    your mufti sahib has been asked to defend his understanding of those quotes - and we will wait for his reply.

    I guess alahazrat had not read samhudi and nablusi when he wrote his fatawa and your mufti sahib is the only one reads books and "scholarly literature" but please excuse us "bigoted ignoramuses" if we do not treat him like his fanboys. You see, we have better things to do.
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  2. Bazdawi

    Bazdawi Active Member

    you should consider writing in paragraphs brother....
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  3. Hashim Aftab

    Hashim Aftab New Member

    It is shocking to see how many narrow minded, self conceited, bigoted ignoramuses are on this forum. There has not been a single satisfactory response to Abu Hamza’s point, instead just a tirade of ad-hominem attacks and to be quite frank some absolutely pathetic posts. Abu Hamza has quoted clearly and concisely what major ulema have said regarding this topic, if people feel that his citations are either ambiguous or out of context or worse still misquotations then please feel free to point these out. These opinions might go against the grain of what you have been taught and might be difficult for you to swallow but up until this point you have not adequately rebutted his positions nor have you presented any evidence of quotes to the contrary. Many posting on this topic are probably not even aware of the scholarly literature regarding the issue at hand yet nonetheless are ignorantly presenting views without any supporting evidence. I advise people to read Al-Iqdul Fareed by Imam Samhudi a comprehensive work on the topic and also Khlasatu Thaqeeq a short epistle by Shaykh Abdul Ghani. It seems many commenting on this thread are not looking at thus topic objectively but rather through the prisms of bias narrow mindedness which questions whether one is in actual fact sincere in seeking the truth or just championing the position they feel is right albeit with no evidence or explanation whatsoever.
  4. IslamIsTheTruth

    IslamIsTheTruth Well-Known Member

    Seems to be something contagious in Brum town.
    Short beards, fan boys and base desires.
  5. Bazdawi

    Bazdawi Active Member

    yes, i must admit i am a caveman but perhaps other cavemen like me will realise how taking from other maddhahib will be abused by the rukhsa-chasers.

    first they will ask for citations and references for a position from their default maddhab, then once they realise that this maddhab is unequivocal on an issue then they will swiftly jump ship and ask what the other maddhahib say on this said issue.


    mufti sahib asked for the citations from the hanafi fuqaha, of course mufti sahib being extremely well read knew that these citations were present, but then suddenly the topic of taking from other maddhahib was brought up.

    i admit i am a caveman but to a caveman like me, this just seems like chasing ruksha; when the hanafi position was being discussed, and hanafi citations were being demanded then suddenly bringing up the topic of taking from other maddhahib?!

    Allah states in The Holy Quran - "Ask the people of knowledge if you do not know."

    ala Hazrat says in ajla al-Iylam:
    "and if a layman asks his imam [regarding an issue] and then doesn't act upon it then this [asking his imam] would be futile and useless and the Shariah is exalted from commanding futile things."
  6. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    @Paradise Seeker

    please don't worry about shallow publicity seekers. they are an embarrassment to themselves. and fan-clubs need tending too. they don't just grow out of thin air...
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  7. Paradise Seeker

    Paradise Seeker Active Member

    is this why you just posted this on facebook for your fan club: "....i woke up to caveman, uncivilised shoddy points, with not ONE citation."
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  8. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    the position being advocated is that he can pick and choose. One madh'ab per amal is just fine.


    Please click this link to go through posts made by Abu Hamza in the old thread on beards. This is to give an idea about how he reasons.

    Note, you need to be logged-in to use the above link.
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