Sulh kulli Noor ud Deen Rashid

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  1. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Veteran


    I'm not Sh Abu Hasan but generally, they are excused even if they wrongly pass judgement. But not in the case of Sh Sa'id who openly wrote a whole book on the topic of imkan al-kadhib just to come to a similar conclusion as Deobandis even if they say imkan al-kadhib is muhal 'aqlan themselves.

    Or if they defend the Deobandi ibaraat openly.
     
  2. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    Mawlana @abu Hasan - What are your thoughts about this where Arab ulema side with Deobandis? Are they excused as they do not understand urdu? And if this is the case then why do they even pass their judgement on the issue without thorough investigation? In any court a judge hears both sides and thoroughly examines evidences presented by each side before passing judgement.
     
  3. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Veteran

    Habib Umar ibn Hafiz is mistaken but ....at least not as much as Sh Sa'id.

    Sh Sa'id Foudah wrote a whole book on the topic of imkan al-kadhib just to come to a similar conclusion as Nuh Ha Mim Keller
     
  4. HASSAN

    HASSAN Veteran

  5. Seif Eddine

    Seif Eddine New Member


    If someone calls himself Deobandi but rejects all of this, is he still considered a deviant?

    From what i understood from Shaykh Noor ud Deen, he still calls someone who holds the views 1-2-3-5 as deviant, as he did for al-Kawthari.

    Is it still fair to say that he is sulh kulli? I may be misunderstanding either what he said or what sulh kullism is, but i am pretty new here so looking forward to having a better understanding inshaAllah.

    BarakAllahu fikum
     
  6. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Noor says Devs are Sunni.

    This is my take on it. If I'm mistaken, please correct my understanding.

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    Devbandis are deviants for a few reasons.

    Devbandis fall into some or all of these:

    1. They accept passages in which RasulAllah ﷺ has been insulted. This is kufr.

    2. They accept passages in which the necessities of faith have been denied. E.g. finality of prophethood. This is kufr.

    3. They claim Ahl al-Sunnah commit shirk. E.g. when we say Ya RasulAllah ﷺ. This takes devbandis out of Ahl al-Sunnah.

    4. They claim Ahl al-Sunnah commit bidah. E.g. when we celebrate Mawlid. This takes them out of Ahl al-Sunnah for opposing the greater majority.

    5. They follow molwis who wrote the passages mentioned above.

    6. They follow molwis who declared Ahl al-Sunnah mushriks and bidyis.

    7. They admit the possibility of falsehood in Divine Speech.
     
  7. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    A common trait of sulla kullis is that their hearts are void of the true love of the Messenger of Allah (saws). This is the exact reason why they find excuses in defending blasphemer groups with heretic ideologies such as Wahhabiyyah and Devbandiyyah. Contrast that with the Sahabah and our pious predecessors who used to...

    This Noor ud Deen is no different and is clearly evident from his speeches. Sounds more like a politician that sullah kullis are!
     
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  8. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    More sulh kullism.

    If people are waiting to speak to him before passing judgement, that's on them.

    His clips have been made public by himself and it's clear sulh kullism.
     
  9. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Veteran

    If this individual has himmat, tell him to make a video on Shaykh Qasim Kuzaym and Shaykh Abd al-Aziz al-Khatib.

    We don't want your advice Noor ud Deen Rashid.

    Keep it to yourself.


    Shaykh Qasim Kuzaym:


    Shaykh Abd al-Aziz al-Khatib



    This Noor ud Deen is not only sullah kulli. He is a liar.


    As for Tadhkirat al-Awliya and Saba Sanabil, these books have tampering.
     
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  10. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Veteran

    Jawab to Chisti RasulAllah from Mufti Zahid Numani:

     
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  12. AMQadiri

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  13. IslamIsTheTruth

    IslamIsTheTruth Well-Known Member

    You should alert Sheikh Asrar then.
    According to this guy Asrar sahib didn't sign the document and said it was a forgery.
     
  14. HajiNaushah

    HajiNaushah Active Member

    Noor is waffling
     
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2023
  15. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    If there were any doubts left, they have been removed. This guy is a full blown sulh kulli and should be nowhere near any Sunni masjid teaching post.
     
  16. Aqdas

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