Sunni view on Ibn Rushd

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  1. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    LANGUAGE CORRECTION (I think the writer stumbled due to the double negative)
    The correct words should be; "as long as they believe that denying that the world is NOT eternal is blasphemy.

    Or "as long as they believe that the world is not eternal"
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  2. Umar99

    Umar99 Veteran

    Walaykum salam,

    Shaykh Abu Adam
    May 16, 2008 at 8:12 pm

    Everybody should be aware that there are two Ibn Rushd, one is known as the grandfather, the other as the grandson. It is the latter that is also known as Averroes, the Aristotlean philosopher. The grandfather is a great faqiih of the Maalikiyy school.

    Abu Adam


    I am guessing you are speaking of the grandson known as Averroes.


    Shaykh Abu Adam says:
    May 16, 2008 at 1:00 pm
    What Al-Ghazaaliy, and all the scholars said was the philosophers are kuffar. It does not matter if they are before him or after him, because it is their beliefs that make them non-Muslims. Ibn Rushd himself was indeed accused of blasphemy and expelled from Spain for it. Some of his books were even burned. Then later he was permitted to come back, but died before he could make it. There are terrible things in his books, many of them designed to sow doubt about the belief of Muslims, such as the belief that the world has a beginning.

    Abu Adam

    Shaykh Abu Adam says:
    May 18, 2008 at 11:20 am
    It is not hearsay, even a quick look at Decisive Treatise reflects a man whose primary purpose is to defend Aristotle and his heresies against Ahlu-s-Sunnah. He says in it that it is not kufr to deny resurrection or to claim that the world is eternal. That is enough in itself. You find him always trying to cast doubts about the certainty of the world having a beginning.

    As for plain quotes, here is one: In “Risalah maa baˆd Al-Ţabiiˆah” Ibn Rusħd states plainly his belief that the world is eternal and says: “… moreover, the parts of what is eternal are eternal, because it has become clear that this one movement, I mean the daily movement, is beginninglessly eternal. And if the elements of the sky, which are the parts of the greatest bulk, are eternal, then their movement is necessarily eternal, and the things that move them are also eternal. I mean they are all eternal, and they are of the kind of what moves it all.” (“Risalah maa baˆd Al-Ţabiiˆah,” Ibn Rusħd the grandson (595 AH), 1st Ed., Dar Al-Fikr Al-Lubananiy, Beirut, 1994.)

    One of the bad omens about this person is that he is really the source for most attacks launched by orientalists and Ibn Taymiyyah against rational proofs for Islam’s correctness. They took their ideas from him in terms of how to sow doubts about basics of the religion.

    I think enough has been said about this man for now. I simply meant to mention him as one of the philosophers, for he is famously one of them, and that the philosophers are kuffar in general, as has been stated by Al-Ghazaaliyy, Abuu Manşuur Al-Baghdaadiyy and others. What someone thinks about Ibn Rushd the grandson specifically and individually is not that important as long as they believe that denying that the world is eternal is blasphemy, as is the denial of bodily resurrection on the Day of Judgment.
  3. Ibn Hadi

    Ibn Hadi Ya Ghaus e Azam Dastageer

    As salamu alaykum,

    What is the view of the ulama of Ahlus Sunnah on Ibn Rushd. I know his father was a great scholar and Ibn Rushd himself has some good works in Fiqh. But when it comes to Aqidah is he deemed a kafir like Ibn Sina and Al Farabi, or simply a deviant?

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