Tahir at ghamkol

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  1. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    @Speak-truth i hope your not here to troll.

    what's hsbt having a banner up got to do with me? That banner is up in several mosques around Birmingham.
     
  2. Speak-truth

    Speak-truth New Member

    @ harris bro sultan bahu had that minhaji padri face so u most likely must have changed ur stance regarding being in support of tahirul.

    Problem is @ aqdas the organisers know that tahirul is wrong'un but there hell bent on doing it best case scenario is that gather a few scholars and land down at ghamkol.
     
  3. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    Pir Dildar Shah from Coventry reading the Kalimah wrong. Reminds me of Nawaz attempt of reading Iman e Mufassal on DM

    Lets hope Sufi Javed will get padri and all tafzilis to do some Ghamkol style Zikr on Sunday

     
  4. ghulam-e-raza

    ghulam-e-raza Well-Known Member

    As some of you may be aware, Dr Tahir ul Qadri is due to have a programme in the UK on the 9th of January. We urge all Sunnis to avoid and boycott this event and also put pressure on the organisers and hosts to cancel this event.

    "The approval of this so-called Tāhir ul Qādirī within the circles of the Ahl al-Sunnah induces bewilderment, as it is apparent and clear that he is not a representative of Sunnīs. From his books, namely Firqah Parastī Kā Khātimah, which has been published for a long time and is publicly available – it is absolutely clear that according to him, Barelvīs, Deobandīs, Shīas etc. are all one. According to him, the differences between these sects are merely differences in explanations (tashrīḥī) and interpretations (taʿbīrī)." - Tājush Sharīʿah Muftī Akhtar Riḍā Khān al-Qādirī

    Read about the deviancy of this individual in our article "Unmasking the Minhaji Apostasy", a translation of a statement made by Tājush Sharīʿah Muftī Akhtar Riḍā Khān al-Qādirī

    http://www.thesunniway.com/index.ph...ajush-shari-ah-unmasking-the-minhaji-apostasy

    Note: This article was released a couple of years ago after the Dr's antics at Wembley, but we are now relaunching a revised, updated translation along with some formatting improvements, so we recommend reading it and sharing it again.

    TheSunniWay
     
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  5. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    send them the Fatwa of Ghosi Shareef, regarding the Irtidad of Padri.
     
  6. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    A few of the event organisers have been spoken to but they fail to see our viewpoint.

    I've sent the istiftā in aH's minhaji fata morgana to one of the organisers yesterday on WhatsApp after a long phone call.

    What next?
     
  7. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    please use the laws of the uk to your advantage. sue them if possible and teach them a lesson. at least file a police complaint or something.
     
  8. I don't think fazal ahmad is a mufti.
     
  9. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    Nawaz can you pass the Istifta on to Mufti Fazl Ahmad to answer.
     

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  10. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Mawlana sadiq zia said his name appears on the poster despite his wish against it. He said once he found out tahir is invited, he told the others to not include his name but they did anyway.
     
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  11. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    Pir Ateeq ur Rehmans Khalifah the little Hafiz Allama Zaheer should know better as his Pir is against Padri



    It seems that the only ones who are really pro padri are Nisar Baig and Zahid Shah. Both need to clarify their Aqida at Ghamkol in regards to Sayyiduna Abu Bakr RadiAllahanhu and also padri

    Gujjar Baba Mufti Fazl Ahmad is swinging both ways and is saying he is not a Tafzili Shia
     
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  12. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    Professor Sadiq Zia and Mufti Akhtar Ali are both against padri and tafzilis. They should publically distance themselves from the conference.
     
  13. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    These are the contact numbers on the poster if anyone wants to ring and voice opposition.

    07944 777101
    07791 057208
     
  14. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    Wonder if they will put a bombproof container/shed in the car park for him or he will come as 'Shaykh ul Islam' and not Qaid e Inqilab to the car park like he is in this video

     
  15. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

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  16. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    @Abu al-Qasim that's what i thought paqs was getting at, if at all that is what he was getting at, he's an utter rafidi (which he is, because he said what he said in explicit videos on that topic)
     
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  17. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    that was needless and un-amusing: either you misunderstood me or I have missed your subtle point.

    What I meant is that those who would gravitate towards TuQ (aka Padri) would definitely be spineless, not caring about TuQ's irtidaad.

    just to clarify: I have never met PAQS in my life - nor am I his follower / admirer. Nor do I listen to his speeches / look at his videos.
     
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  18. Abu al-Qasim

    Abu al-Qasim Active Member

    The 'brother/bhai' he is referring to is the half brother of Sayyiduna Husayn (radiAllahu 'anhu) and son of Sayyiduna 'Ali (karamAllahu wajhahu al-karim) by Sayyidatuna Khawlah bint Ja'far al-Hanafiyyah (radiAllahu 'anha), Sayyiduna Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyyah. He attacked him and his blessed mother during this speech. I believe he was trying to make some convoluted and invalid point that though he (Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyyah) was of the 'alawite blood line, due to him not having been of the fatimid bloodline he was incapable of helping his brother Imam al-Husayn (radiAllahu 'anhu) during the events of Karbala, i.e. implying he was disloyal due to the his genealogy. He compared this with Mawlawi Baig's disloyalty toward him, as disloyalty was passed down in his 'miraasi' blood. A disgusting comparison and a blatant attack on the dignity and honour of Sayyiduna Muhammad ibn al-Hanfiyyah and his mother (Allah Almighty is well pleased with them). I believe Sidi Abu Hasan refuted him at length on this point, when the full version of this video was posted in a topic here on SP.
     
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  19. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    ok, whatever! i was just curious if he said that about Imam Aali Maqam; it's certainly not below paqs to utter such words.
     
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  20. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    The mosque is saying no Ulema close or far have bothered to express concerns prior to my phone call, they say if the Ulema have issues they should bring issues forward as they have Ulema (who's names they won't mention) who have approved of the event.

    They are saying the event was organised by Hafiz Muhammad Zia Sahib he did the original booking.
     

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