Tahir Jhangvi in India

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  1. Abdul Mustafa 786

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  2. Muhammad Ali

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  3. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Veteran

  4. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Veteran

    Brother Abdul Mustafa, Pir Amin ul Hasanat is not a ex supporter of Dr Tahir. Very recently he was cutting a birthday cake for the doctor!
  5. Abdul Mustafa 786

    Abdul Mustafa 786 Active Member

    Pir war? Hate campaign against "Shaykhul Islam Dr. Tahirul Qadri"? List of Ulama

    ok I'll respond to the ending part:

    My dear brother/sister this is not a Pir war i.e. one Pir saheb opposing another Pir saheb on some small issue. This is many Sunnhi scholars warning innocent Muslims to stay away from "Prof. Tahirul Qadri".

    My posting so many links by so many different respected Sunnhi Ulama and Masha'ikh is not a hate campaign. Rather it is an awareness campaign so that innocent Sunnhi Muslims may protect themselves from the deviations of "Prof. Tahirul Qadri" who believes that every non-Muslim is not a non-Believer, please see this video uploaded by one of his promoters where he says this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_RSJgrzGHI

    Now please also watch: Reply to Dr. Tahir ul Qadri on Christians & Jews are Believers - Pir Syed Irfan Shah Sahib: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk5ialNbGsU

    The following is a list of some of the Sunnhi Ulama and Masha'ikh who have warned Muslims to stay away from "Prof. Tahirul Qadri":

    Hazrat Shaykhul Islam Mufti Madani Mia al-Ashrafi al-Jilani from Kichocha Shareef: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kcv6AF8HoM

    Hazrat Allama Dr. Kaukab Noorani Okarvi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsV0O2LmiF8

    Hazrat Mufti Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah Qadri: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCtlSsnXC0g

    Pir Syed Irfan Shah Sahib: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIBl7p6SEQ0

    Mufti Hanif Qureshi on "Tahirul Qadri" & MinhajulQuran [URDU]: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAED197DADEA67F74

    Shaykh Naveed Ashrafi: ENGLISH VIDEOS: Peace for Humanity Conference & Dr. Tahirul Qadri: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL563FFFD8229D2E7C&feature=plcp

    Mufti Ashraf Asif Jalali: Tahir ul Qadri Islam Ka Baghi n Gustakh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7DNhW5NQa8

    EX-SUPPORTER of "Prof. Tahirul Qadri": Pir Muhammad Amin Ul Hassanat on Mumtaz Qadri Issue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs89034ETtc

    Fatwa of Kufr on Tahir ul Qadri by Mufti Muhammad Fazl e Rasool Siyalvi Chisti: http://www.masabih.org/showthread.php?t=9636

    Fatwa of Kufr on "Tahirul Qadri" by Hazrat Taajush Shariah Mufti Akhtar Raza Khan Qadri al-Azhari, President of All India Sunni Jamiatul Ulama, Head Mufti of Central Darul Ifta - Bareilly: http://files.thesunniway.com:81/b/ur/ar/Fatwa on Tahir by Taaj al-Shariah.pdf

    Jamia Amjadia fatwa of Kufr on Prof. Tahir Jhangvi endorsed by Muhaddith-e-Kabeer Hazrat Zia ul Mustafa Qadri: http://www.masabih.org/showthread.php?p=37412

    Detailed Urdu fatwa of Kufr issued against Tahirul Qadri regarding his recent Wembley "congregation" by Allama Mufti Kausar Hasan Rizwi of India (Khalifah of Huzoor Mufti Aazam Hind R.A.): http://www.ahlesunnat.biz/fatwakufrtahir.pdf

    The above is a list of just some of the Sunnhi Ulama who have warned Muslims to stay away from "Prof. Tahirul Qadri". There are many other Sunnhi Ulama who have warned against his deviations, please see the attached pdf.

    Also see the MUST READ English book "Minhaji Fata Morgana, An examination of Prof. Tahir's embellished narrative of the Najran and Abyssinian delegations": http://ridawipress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Minhaji_Fata_Morgana.pdf

    Attached Files:

  6. Abdul Mustafa 786

    Abdul Mustafa 786 Active Member

    A Mumbai lawyer told me on facebook:

    "A Writ Petition was filed in Bombay High Court swearing that since Dr Tahir Ul Qadri was supporting early resolution of Kashmir Dispute, he was a danger to India and therefore the Petitioners apprehended that he would cause riots. No ground other than the Kashmiri issue was pleaded. The Bombay High Court did not grant any reliefs and all programs of Dr Tahir ul Qadri were successfully held. Can a true Muslim file false statements on oath to file absolutely false Writ Petitions? Was the problem really relating Kashmir Issue and the petitioner's love for India and hatred for Kashmir? Or was it that the Shops marketing deen were under danger of Dr Tahirul Qadri's wisdom? Just think did they act in interest of Islam. And is it fair for them to still abuse Dr Tahirul Qadri and divide the Sunnhis."

    comments please
  7. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    there is nothing out of context. that man (tahir jhangvi) specifically juxtaposed belief with kufr and rather than just say that jews and christians are believers, he negated that they were kafirs.

    he claims to be a hanafi and a scholar, but he does not even have the manner of a scholar when talking about islamic issues. the way he swears and shouts and makes presumptuous claims with no proof from the sunnah.

    anyway, if you choose to remain blind to his ignorance, it is your choice.

    wa billahi't tawfiq.
  8. Abdul Mustafa 786

    Abdul Mustafa 786 Active Member

    No, it proves that a single doctored video uploaded by an opponent is not enough. The criticism levelled against Prof. Tahir is not levelled on a single video an opponent mischievously uploaded. Rather it is levelled on a career of statements. The videos that drew criticism are all uploaded by Prof. Tahir's followers. Unless you're insinuating that Prof. Tahir's followers are mischievous?

    If this were the case then Prof. Tahir would have said so in his follow up video rather he defended the gathering he had as not even being Bid'ah Hasanah but Sunnah. Na'udhubillah, see the MUST READ English book "Minhaji Fata Morgana, An examination of Prof. Tahir's embellished narrative of the Najran and Abyssinian delegations": http://ridawipress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Minhaji_Fata_Morgana.pdf

    Please see the attached pdf which substantiates my claim of a career of statements by Prof. Tahir.

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  9. Muhammad Ali

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  10. Muhammad Ali

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  11. HarunI

    HarunI Banned

    are you saying that the wembley clips are doctored? and the follow-up clips are also doctored? that the christmas speech - and similar statements are all doctored? what about the kufriyat in his books?

    may Allah ta'ala give you sense. you are walking into a pit of fire by following that jaahil tahir jhangvi.

    Its not about doctoring..its about taking things out of context....specially his comments on Christians being believers have been taken out of context...

    And btw, how can you be sure of whatever you are calling as Kufr is actually so..because a fatwa of Kufr has also been issued on MAulana Ilyas from Dawat e Islami but I am sure majority of AHlus Sunnah don't endorse it.....So,based on a research of one individual we can't label anyone as Kaafir....

    --------Use of term 'Believers' for Ahle Kitaab by Non Indo Pak Ulema--------

    As far as use of the term Believers, it could have been used in context of the Ahle Kitaab i.e. (People who believe in Divine revalations) and this term is also being used by Non Indo Pak Ulema in the Project A Common Word which has endorsement of leading scholars from throughout the world .


    A Common Word is An Islamic Movement of Dialogue based on the Holy Quran, initiated by H M Abdullah II Bin Al- Hussein * a Member of the Holy Family of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon him)*, King of Hashemite Sultanate of Jordan, who issued the Royal Edict called Message of Amman which naturally gave birth to the `A Common Word, the`movement, of which name in Urdu is given as Islami Tehreeke-Mukalemah.

    The Signitaries of this project include the following who are Ulema and Muftis of high callibre in their respective countries:
    Shaykh Al-Habib Umar
    Dean, Dar Al-Mustafa, Tarim, Yemen ,

    Shaykh Habib Al Jiffri,

    Shaykh Prof. Dr. Ali Jum‘a
    Grand Mufti of the Republic of Egypt

    Shaykh Dr. Abdal Hakim Murad Winter
    Shaykh Zayed Lecturer in Islamic Studies, Divinity School, University of Cambridge; Director of the Muslim Academic Trust, UK

    ===Final Declaration of the Project - "Common Word" ===========
    Lets look at the use of term believers in the Common Word by Non Indo Pak Ulema

    11.We profess that Catholics and Muslims are called to be instruments of love and harmony among believers, and for humanity as a whole, renouncing any oppression, aggressive4 violence and terrorism, especially that committed in the name of religion, and upholding the principle of justice for all.

    12. We call upon believers to work for an ethical financial system in which the regulatory mechanisms consider the situation of the poor and disadvantaged, both as individuals, and as indebted nations. We call upon the privileged of the world to consider the plight of those afflicted most severely by the current crisis in food production and distribution, and ask religious believers of all denominations and all people of good will to work together to alleviate the suffering of the hungry, and to eliminate its causes.


    5. In dialogue, believers must express their gratitude to God for all these gifts with mutual respect and compassion, and in a form of life in harmony with God’s creation.
    Catholics and Muslims look forward to continuing their dialogue as a way of furthering mutual understanding, and advancing the common good of all humanity, especially its
    yearning for peace, justice and solidarity.

    Project Common Word in Pakistan under supervision of Allama Abdul Fateh G R Chishti

    A brief report of the first A COMMON WORD CONFERENCE Held In Islamabad Pakistan on 13 April 2009

    http://www.acommonword.com/IslamicMovementofDialoguefinal 2.pdf
    Commencement of the work On A Common Word In Pakistan

    UIPM Meeting

    In the last week of February 2009, the members of Supreme Council of UIPM`s meeting was held, Allama Abdul Fateh G R Chishti presided over
    the meting it was decided to hold A Common Word Conference to make aware of the real Islamic attitude towards the other religions of the world as it is depicted in the Amman Message and A Common Word.

    As a good will gesture Allama Chishti also invited Christians religious fellows to participate in a religious ceremony in his Mosque where a room has been set a side to discuss Muslim 3 Christian relations to which the name has been given as Interfaith Hall.

    Thus the Message of Amman become the common constitution of all Islamic Schools of Thought and A Common Word as the starting point for interfaith Dialogue.
    The Universal Interfaith Peace Mission has translated in Urdu the long letter consisting upon 20 thickly written pages in English. The translation will be published and distributed in the Second A Common Word Conference in Lahore.The Islamic Movement of Dialogue will be run under UIPM and it`s message would be spread in the masses of Pakistan by organizing conferences publishing leaflets, pamphlets and books in different languages and dialects, as well as lectures.

    Please watch this Video
  12. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    are you saying that the wembley clips are doctored? and the follow-up clips are also doctored? that the christmas speech - and similar statements are all doctored? what about the kufriyat in his books?

    may Allah ta'ala give you sense. you are walking into a pit of fire by following that jaahil tahir jhangvi.
  13. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Veteran

    Hazrat Pir Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah Sahib have recently refuted Dr Tahir Minhaji very openly on the Wembley Conference.

    As for Ajmer Sharif, Pir Syed Muzaffar Hussain Shah Sahib have been their many times and in his recent speech he has refuted the Sajada Nasheens their for having Shia their!

    Also on a side note Mufti Hanif Qureshi was a solid supporter of Dr Tahir, even now he has only gone against him because of Mumtaz Qadri. I have heard a very recent private recording of his!
  14. HarunI

    HarunI Banned

    If people are out there to do mischeif with Mufti Hanif Qureshi do you think Ulema like Dr. TQ would be spared??

    So,this proves that a single Video is not enough to declare someone as Kaafir or make a decision...
    Watch this::
    I am not sure why the members use the above principle for the Ulema whom they support but when it comes to other Ulema they are ready to Shout KUFR based on a single video....

    Dr. TQ has clearly stated that, till the time anyone replies to question about Prophet Muhammad(Peace be upon him) he will not enter Jannah.

    The following videos are enough to clarify false allegations that are being put across by a certain group.

    Questions in the Grave - Shaykh ul Islam Dr Tahir Ul Qadri(Urdu)

    Please watch this video, in which its clearly stated that Christians are Non-Muslims but are Ahle Kitaab in Quranic terms

    But still members of this Forum are insistent on calling him Kaafir
  15. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Hazrat Pir Allama Bilal Ajmeri is the true Sajadah.
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  17. The Emir

    The Emir Well-Known Member

    Just came across this video which is very interesting for those who haven't watched it and especially for Brother Harun. Amongs other things a few are very clear, TuQ has been 'Sullah Kulli' from the outset, secondly this must be the first mujaddid and Shaykh ul Islam who openly lies and says different things according to his audience. Despite knowing of TuQ's activities even I was actually shocked at the blatant lies he is telling.

    On a side note the person grilling him is Sayed Zahid Hussain of Nottingham who those especially at Ya.....com should note his comments about 'Barelwiyat' which these days they seem to have an allergy to. Odd how sons change thier tunes to suit the times!


    And just for good measure watch this short clip. Its Syed Zahid Hussain again but this time has changed his tune!! If this is the state of our so called seniors then we are all in trouble.

  18. Abdul Mustafa 786

    Abdul Mustafa 786 Active Member

    Mufti Haneef Qureshi on Hazrat Ameer Muawiyah RadiyAllahu Anhu

    Someone mischievously edited part of a lecture by Mufti Hanif Qureshi in order to level criticism against him and uploaded it on Youtube. In response the original video was uploaded, please see: Re:Hanif Qureshi Against Ameer Muaviyah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1xq_yt8HSk

    Also see:
    Re: Real Face of Mufti Hanif Qureshi (Jamia Rizvia Zia ul Uloom).flv: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWPg8xjxj6k

    Some other videos of Mufti Hanif Qureshi on Hazrat Ameer Mua'wiyah RadiyAllahu Ta'ala 'anhu:
    Mufti Muhammad Hanif Qureshi on Hazrat Ameer Mua'wiyah Radi Allah o Anho 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx8_3oXZDOc

    Mufti Muhammad Hanif Qureshi on Hazrat Ameer Mua'wiyah Radi Allah o Anho 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw7TRxIutfI

    Mufti Muhammad Hanif Qureshi on Hazrat Ameer Mua'wiya Radi Allah o Anho And Nara e Tahqeeq: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZNMQzyRlVU

    Mufti Hanif Qureshi on Hazrat e Ameer Mua'viyah Radi ALLAH o Anho In Azmat e Sahaba Conference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvUSQVhacIE

    Also see:
    Shia Operation by Munazir e Islam Mufti Muhammad Hanif Qureshi:
    1 of 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ1VHrF0x6g
    2 of 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cgzar4wPKs
    3 of 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMh0nY0R3To
    4 of 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84kx7YIByog

    HarunI watch this video clip by Hazrat Sayed Muzaffar Hussain Shah Qadri:
    Kia Tahir Ul PADRI MUJADDID HE ? MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yJJYBGsPiI
  19. Unbeknown

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  20. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    i listened to the first 1 sec. come on, we cannot take the opinion of someone who can't recite the basmala properly.

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