tahir minhaji ki nayi jahalat: speaking on Hazrat Muawiyah

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  1. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

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  2. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    which scholar in the past 1400 years set up an 'iytikaf city'?
    which scholar in the past 1400 years invited christians 'pray according to their tradition' in muslim masjids?
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  3. Faheem

    Faheem New Member

    TUQ (NUP) misquotes the hadees while misquoting it towards ameer-e-mUAawiyah radiallaHu anH and says:

    ek baghi giroh ammaar bin yaasar ko qatal karega aur woH Jannat me jaayega

    instead of saying Jahannam me jaayega
  4. Faheem

    Faheem New Member

    (Imaam hasan-e-mujtaba ko god me lekar mimbar par) huzoor-e-anwar SwallallaHu alayHi wa sallam ne farmaaya

    innabni HaaZaa Sayyadun laAllallaHa an yusliHa biHee baynal fiAtayni AZeematayni minal Muslimeen

    mera Rab, mere is sardaar beTe (Imaam hasan radiallaHu anH) ki wajaH se meri ummat ke do musalmaan AZeem girooHon ke darmiyaan sulah karwaayega.

    (YeH woH SheHzaada-e-aman Hai jo laDti Hui Ummat ko JoDa aur ameer-e-mUAawiyah radiallaHu anH ke Haat peH baiAt-e-itAat farmaayi)

    attached video clip
  5. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    He's said no one praised Amir Muawiyah in 1400 years. That's a lie. There are entire books on his merits.

    Scholars didn't hold days or name masjids about greater sahabah than Amir Muawiyah. And?

    Tahir ul has tried to stop the dhikr of a sahabi and people don't see a problem? Only in our century!
  6. blogger

    blogger New Member

    What is the issue with the video? I don't see anything wrong with what was said. He expressed his opinion about the remembrance of Hazrat Mu'awiyah Radiallahu Anhu and those notable scholars of the past never took it upon themselves to specifically hold days or name masjids in his name.

    I personally, do not see anything wrong with what he has said.
  7. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    actually 2:36 onwards.

    b/w 2:30 to 2:36 he tried his best to paint his views as sunni stance, but couldn't hide his hatred.

    2:39: 'har sahabi ki ta'zeem karain'.

    kaff e lisan is ta'zim?

    2:44:'yahan par fazeelat ki tarteeb khatam ho jati hay'

    jahil does not understand that these ranks are among sahaba, while every sahabi is afzal than the entire ummah, what he would say about sayyiduna habashi?


    can someone please post a short clip from 2:30 to 2:53
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  8. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    A donkey braying against hazrat Muawiyah رضي الله عنه

    Around 2h30m onwards

  9. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    both tahir and his followers:

    phir usi bey-wafa pe martey haiN
    phir wahi zindagi hamari hai

    but mujaddid-e-jhang (now relocated to canada) had to abort his mission with -

    paak mein pakDa na tha tahir abhi waHshat ka rang
    rah gaya tha dil meiN jo kuch zauq e khwari haay haay*

    ishq ne pakDa na tha ghaalib abhi waHshat ka rang
    rah gayaa tha dil meiN jo kuch zauq e khwari haay haay.
  10. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator


    around 2.00 mujaddid sab slightly alters his curse upon hmself. what a besharam, beghayrat, beHayaa fellow!

  11. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    tahir should be known as "he-who-cursed-himself"


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  12. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    don't he and his brain-damaged mureeds claim that they are broad-minded and embrace everyone and it is just the baraylwis who kick people out of sunnism?

    the baraylwis don't evict people from sunnism - it is the people themselves who go out and then the ulama simply state the ruling, basing it strictly on the agreed-upon usul of ahl-sunnah.

    now here's this guy pushing people out of sunnism based on a self-concocted principle not found in any book of ususl or furu' and having no rational or shara'i evidence. Of-course since he is a demi-god for his mureeds, his hate-mongering is completely acceptable to them.

    to begin with, he needs to become a Muslim before he can even pretend to be a mufti. that's the bare minimum.
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  13. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    At 1:15, Tahir says such people aren't Sunnis.

    When we say a certain scholar has given a ruling that so-and-so is out of Ahlu's Sunnah - fanboys ask: 'is the issuing scholar a mufti?'

    So I ask: is Tahir a mufti? Because he's clearly said anyone who delivers a lecture about Amīr Muawiyah on 10th Muharram is not a Sunni.

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  14. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Tahir says no book of aqidah mentions Amīr Muawiyah's merits.

    I ask: are books of aqidah higher than books of hadith?

    Tahir says ulama talk about Muawiyah due to hatred for Ahl al-Bayt.

    Did Tahir check their hearts?

    Tahir says expose such mullas

    So when we expose your kufr at Wembley, why cry?

    Tahir says it's kharijis who started talking of manaqib of Muawiyah.

    Did he not read hadith? What about the books by Sunni scholars in his praise?
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  15. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    also' the jahil actually clsims that he, and also padri himself, does not believe in padri's fatwa of kufr against taliban and al qaidah because they hate takfir. How ridiculous that they reject their own fataawa. why did he do takfir if they are flag bearers of peace and harmony among sects and religions.

    shameless liars.
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  16. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    extreme jahalat, and perfect liar. the jahil says ilm and wilayah are two different things, go to mufti only to learn ibadaat, but don't get deen from them, it is with awliya kriam, as if awliya kiram were juhala, al i'yadhu billah. perhaps this jahil did not read seerah of awliya kiram, all well known awliya kiram were mufti, muhadith, and mufassir.

    Allahu akbar, now jahalah is being spread from the pulpit.

    the jahil says we don't use abusive language, he needs to listen to his own speech. he also challenges if anybody can prove minhajies have ever cursed other ulame, what about this very speech of him, and has he forgotten padri's fiery speeches in india?

    how do they claim to be the followers of ala hazrat rahimahullah, when to him (them) he was just a mufti, who should be consulted to get fatwa about ibadaat. what else nifaq is?
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  17. samir_shaikh

    samir_shaikh New Member

    minahji boaster
  18. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    This answer here is enough to reveal his jahalah, the so called rafDi muhadith and author of multi volume books of hadith does not understand what does sahabi mean. ibn u'yainah rahimahullah says that to be a sahabi, even if no other superiority (faDilah) is proved or known, then still it is far greater superiority than being a pious, mujahid, and mujtahid imam of muhaditheen and fuqaha like imam ibn Mubarak rahimahullah.

    yet, there are ahadith in faDail of sayyiduna Amir Mu'awiyyah raDiAllahu 'anh but to the rafDi it is nasibiyyat, al i'yadhu billah.
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  19. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Disgusting how at 1:35 he says:

    'In every maktab e fikr that is ahlu's sunnah.'

    I'm sure he's done that so he can include devbandis into ahlu's sunnah.
  20. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Veteran

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