Umar Minhaji Celebrating St Patricks Day

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    it will be helpful if the minhaji also mentions the pubs where he spent the day, and whether he prefers guinness to beamish or murphy's.
    because, according to minhaji:

    "The celebration of St Patrick's day is more cultural now. It is a day in which irish culture and heritage is celebrated."

    i was under the impression that patrick's day is more famous for limitless drinking. go ahead genius, and justify guinness by citing any hadith prior to prohibition of wine, and conclude that hanging around in pubs is proven by sunnah* (al-iyadhu billah) so long as you don't drink.

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    and of course, get a shamrock and wear green - in the true spirit of being irish and the rest of reasons quoted.





    *his leader justified a worse thing and said it was sunnah to invite people to commit shirk. astaghfirullah, wa a'udhu billah.

    i wonder what hamza yusuf would say...
     
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  2. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

  3. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    i think it is best that we rigorously refute this perennialist Dr Tahir cult rather than name call. Minhaji Fata Morgana has done that. We must quote it on Umar Minhaji's page, and confront them everywhere. What else can we do? We are not radicals, or terrorists. We have a different viewpoint to Dr Umar. And we would like to debate with him.


    From the post of Brother Shahnawazgm, i can gather that their nifaaq is due to material gains in dunya. Which religion does Umar Minhaji follow for his own salvation? two scenarios seem plausible:

    1) No religion, just money. He is pretending to be a scholar for livelihood and is not qualified. Doesnt give a damn about Muslims going astray, and thus the label munafiq. Cause? No fear of Allah, and how apt brother Shahnawazgm has called them Sunni imposters.
    2) He truly believes in the perennialist reformed teachings of his Qaid, Dr Tahir, and made a major blunder, but does care about Muslims

    They name their centers as " Bayt al Hikma " .
     
  4. Ghulam

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  5. chisti-raza

    chisti-raza Veteran

    Exactly!
     
  6. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    it's an appalling response. see the red underline below.

    so, Patrick came with the true religion but it was distorted and contained trinity.

    so, according to this minhaji, a distorted version of isa alayhi's salam's teachings that contains trinity is still the true religion! he further goes on to say some Christians are pious which he has said to justify that we should celebrate paddy's day.
     

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  7. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    And how does one attempt to avoid coming into the ruling of such fatwas? By declaring the ahle-kitaab to be "believers"!

    This has been the agenda of this shaytani cult all along - to remove faith from the hearts of the Muslims. These people are the perfect examples of munafiqs, those who lead people astray.

    Then we have the other group of sunni imposters who prevent people from exposing such munafiqs quoting hadiths of hiding faults of believers whilst at the same time suppressing the hadiths of exposing the mischief makers (which is very important so that the common Muslims can save themselves from them)!

    Such munafiq sympathisers should take note, fear Allah, and do tawba lest they be raised amongst their ranks on the day of judgement!
     
  8. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Alī al-Qārī has more details:

    In conclusion, he who purchases something on a Navruz that is not [ordinarily] purchased by Muslims,
    has committed kufr. It has been reported of Abu Hafs al-Kabir al-Bukhari that he said: “Even if a man
    worships Allah táala for fifty years, and on the day of Navruz gifts something to polytheists, to honor their
    [religious] festival, he has committed kufr and disbelieved in Allah táala; his deeds of fifty years have gone
    to waste.” If one goes to the platform of disbelievers – that is, a [religious] gathering of infidels – on
    Navruz, he has committed kufr; because, this is an advertisement of kufr, and this person has as if aided
    them in their proclamation of disbelief.

    http://www.ridawipress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Minhaji_Fata_Morgana.pdf [pdf p.43]​
     
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  9. chisti-raza

    chisti-raza Veteran

    Wow! What a Jahil! Read his reply. Astaghfirullah.
     
  10. Mohammed Wasim

    Mohammed Wasim AhistaChal

    Lol guys a clown. It's all about the paper and the govt throwing money at them. Nothing to do with Islam.
     
  11. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    the -----------says that patrick brought "the true religion" to ireland and it did contain the trinity.

    the true religion that Sayyidina 3Eisa 3alaihis salam brought has nothing to do with the trinity.

    may Allah cleanse the world of this kafir murtad.
     
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  12. Abu al-Qasim

    Abu al-Qasim Active Member

    More rubbish reasoning and butchering of the din by this dogtor.
     

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  13. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    he is justifying the theory of multi-culturalism in the West by twisting accounts of the Sunnah Shareef to make some warped claims.

    St Patrick's Day is actually a religious day for the Irish Catholics, when ireland was christianized from paganism, even though catholic christianity is no different. Its the same as christmas.
     
  14. Jonaid202

    Jonaid202 New Member

    'Shaykh' Umar posting pictures of him and his children celebrating St Patricks day
     

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