'umar or 'amar

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    it is actually a hindi word amar. meaning 'everlasting' or 'forever'.
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  2. naturally the waw is only seen in a nominative position. in accusative and genitive positions the words in a non-diacritic would look the same.
    Is amr a hindu name as well? or is it of a different spellin?
  3. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    actually harakaat were added quite very late in arabic and only for ajamis, therefore to distinguish between `umar and `amr a slient waw is written at the end with `amr
  4. Abu Fadl

    Abu Fadl Banned

    the waw on 'amr is the qaida of 'adl in nahw.
  5. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    `umar and `amr are both proper (as in correct) names.

    the second khalifa is sayyiduna `umar raDiyallahu `anhu written عمر in arabic.

    a few sahaba are named `amr among whom `amr ibn al-`aS radiyallahu anhu is very prominent. some people in the subcontinent mispronounce this name as `amru or `umru because of the additional silent waw written in front (probably to differentiate) between the two names. in arabic: عمرو

    the name of RasulAllah's sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam worst enemy among the quraysh, abu jahl, was also named `amr: `amr ibn hisham.

    RasulAllah sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam prayed: 'allahumma a'iyizzi'l islam bi `umar ibn al-khattab aw bi `amr ibn hisham' / o Allah, give strength to islam by the islam of `umar ibn al-khattab or `amr ibn hisham (abu jahl).

    Allah ta'ala knows best.
  6. what is the correct pronunciation? [as in the name of the second caliph]

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