There are imitation graves in sogut for turgut alp (and probably for numerous other people). Is haram the only opinion?
Thanks, please share more details Not really come across these terms before so plz excuse the errors. Glad Alahazrat ruled it Haram tho
Imitation graves (farzi qubur) are far different to what you've described in your first post... Alahazrat ruled farzi qubur building haram.
Thanks brother for sharing your view. Yes there is still some similarities like distance with Rawdah al Shareef but having a fake or proxy grave is very different. I mean building over Graves was disagreed upon but proxy Graves complete with shrines is next level
One still visits the maqam, with the only caveat being the resting place is 18 ft under, instead of 6. The actual resting place (of the mazars in question) are difficult to reach or can't compensate too many visitors since it's in a niche underground or a discreet location, so they built an extension in a nearby location or directly above, so as to alleviate people efforts in completing the ziyarah It is similar to the Rawdah al Shareef, when you give salams, you are not directly in front of the mazar shareef, you are a few approximately 20+ meters away depending which side you are facing. Besides it's better people stay further away from the maqam out of adab, so a possible wisdom behind this trend is to prevent inappropriate or unworthy people from gaining proximity and transgress protocol, so a proxy mazar is made to prevent such aberrations. Think of it as the dome above the dome. The Mamluk constructed a dome Qubbah al Noor (not visible as it is hidden by the walls surrounding the house of Bibi Aisha ) and the Qubbah e Khadra was made in the 18th century Sultan Mahmud al Thani covering the whole vicinity , this dome has become "THE" hall mark of the Prophet's resting place, and one gives salams from the mere sight of it, despite it being many yards away from the resting place. In the time of the KHilafat till Salaf, prior to the construction of the "additional" walls and other barriers, visitors were much closer when giving ziyarah, but as we advanced in time, and our hearts became astray, so came divine wisdom in play, and we were pushed (justifiably) further and further away.
Salaam to all, For a few years I have been wondering what the Alims have said about Graves of Awliya, specifically how it is sometimes claimed his actual grave is in a room down stairs and so what visitors are left with is a marble stone as symbolic of the grave, hence they do not even get to visit the grave of the intended Awliya. Just interested to know what others think, or what the scholars may have said regarding this.
