Wajid Iqbal on Tafdil and with minhajis

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  1. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    For brothers' knowledge, I was at a protest against Irfan Shah, not to speak to Wajid. He's rang me in the past about Yaqubi and I'm awaiting a response from him about Tahir ul. Let's see.

    If it wasn't Ramadan, I'd ask you again if you asked him.

    Ramadan Mubarak all.
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2023
  2. hamza1

    hamza1 Active Member

    So why didn’t you? You approached them when you called to Sayyid Hamdani. Slipped your mind did it?
     
  3. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    No. I'm still awaiting his reply to my message about Tahir ul. I'm glad you don't condone his public stance on Tahir ul.

    Looks like you were there and feel his views on Tahir ul are unclear. Did you ask?
     
  4. hamza1

    hamza1 Active Member

    ‘Ello there, unc. I’ll cut to the chase.

    I don’t disagree that his views on TuQ are dodgily unclear but asking in person gives one the confidence that they were actually heard, as opposed to simply tagging him FB posts, which is what you do, which can simply be ignored. You would also get a chance to ask regarding Shaykh Yaqoubi.

    Shamsuddin and his student were off to the side sniggering away at the protest at JTI Westgate which you were also at. Indeed, here’s your sign:
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    So I ask again: did you?
     
  5. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Oh, 'ello.

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  6. hamza1

    hamza1 Active Member

    Did you try asking Wajid’s views in person @Aqdas?
     
  7. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Yaqubi has declared Wajid as Mufti e Azam Bradford. Maybe Wajid should renounce this as Bradford has Mufti Aslam and Mufti Fazil who are his teachers and seniors in knowledge.
     
  8. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Veteran

    Btw Wajid AKA "Mufti" Wajid himself told me he has had "meetings with Dr Tahir ul" but he "holds same reservations against Dr. Tahir as other ulama"

    Political nonsense. Either say you're against Dr. Tahir or don't.
     
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  9. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Well done to Mawlana Shahid for refuting Wajid, Yaqubi sb and Tahir ul in Wajid's presence.
     
  10. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    It is heart-warming to see brother Shahid Ali fearlessly tackle issues that are relevant for these times of fitnah. May Allah cause him to grow in this field and utilize his time, knowledge, and skills for promoting Sunnah and destroying heresies of shayatin like tahir and paqs and many more.
     
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  11. Muhammad Husnain

    Muhammad Husnain New Member

    This was nearly 2 weeks ago
     
  12. Muhammad Husnain

    Muhammad Husnain New Member



    Wajid on Tafdhiliyyat, Tahir on Christmas and Urs of Amir Muawiyah رضي الله عنه and Yaqoubi on Sulh e Kulliyat and Nadwi ideology all refuted in front of Wajids face as he nods along in agreement...
     
  13. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    And those who engage in Orwellian Doublespeak where they look to add loopholes or nuances in matters of decisiveness, how can one accurately convey their views? When one's stance is unclear like Abdul Qadir Shah, who claims that Syeduna Abu Bakr then writes books and gives speeches to undermine thar, then how can the opposition be deemed 'insincere'. Just trying to play clever over simple principles in my opinion.
     
  14. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Wajid wrote this after aH's post.
     

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  15. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Veteran

    Wajid has shown his double face
     
  16. Juwayni

    Juwayni Veteran

    He says after this point (at around 1:05:51) regarding the one who says Imam Ibn Arabi was misguided, "...such a person is misguided."



    So basically, he's ok with someone having their own ijtihad regarding the tafdil issue not being ijmayi but then seems to the Wilayah (which I accept) of Imam Ibn Arabi seems to be an ijmayi issue and anyone today who goes against it is misguided.
     
  17. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Fwiw, mainstream wahabis also consider akram nadwi as a dejected heretic and pariah! Yaqoubi sab is on really slippery slope here with the likes of akram nadwi or malm et al. Yaqoubi might as well write a blank check to javed ghamidi!
     
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  18. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    looks like yaqubi sab has no ability to look for talented people - a number of other celebrity shaykhs are smarter than him and keep idiots with some talent.

    now this shamsuddin whom yaqubi has annointed - is blind to the sun and gropes in the dark. not surprising, because yaqubi has praised a man like akram nadwi - who is not only a despicable wahabi, but is also uncouth and hangs around with reprobate punks. perhaps this is the adab of hadith and muhaddithin yaqubi teaches his class.

    la Hawla wa la quwwata illa billah.

    if this be the case of yaqoubi who doesn't have the courage to deplore blasphemers ("innocent lives"...ha..!) - one may not expect much from his shamsuddin-designate. if shamsuddeen is really sure of his fatwa - let him get a written fatwa from yaqubi sab that:

    anyone who denies ijma of the superiority of sayyiduna abu bakr al-siddiq remains a sunni

    let us see if this is yaqubi's own aqidah - or shamsuddin has become deluded and is saying things his own shaykh doesn't approve of..

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    i lost respect for yaqubi for many reasons. when a great muhaddith gives an ijazah to a child, it comes with conditions. and that ijazah is valid or valuable only if the child remains true to those conditions when he grows up. if not, that ijazah becomes defunct. nas'alu Allah al-aafiyah.
     
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  19. Muhammad Husnain

    Muhammad Husnain New Member

    Wajid Iqbal at Minhaji place in Bradford.

    By the way few years ago adil Shahzad, syed Samdani and Sudagar Hussain all signed a joint statement against Tahir ul Padri.

    What will all these guys say about Wajid's remarks on afzaliyyat and his featuring on Minhaj event?
     

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  20. Muhammad Husnain

    Muhammad Husnain New Member

    These were his messages
     

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