will tahir padri embrace qadiyanis?

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  1. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    You are a terrorist AQ

    Even Hazrat Pir Sultan ul Awliya Niaz ul Hassan Sarwari Qadri, Raja Sahib dressed as Jinnah and Mufti Allama Faruq Chisti are there
     

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  2. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    support to tahir?

    and isn't he shia from his looks?
     
  3. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Pakistan Zindabad

    Hazrat Allama Rasul Baksh Nehrvi showing his support on Pakistan Independence Day
     

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  5. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    according to this article - http://www.arabnews.com/news/featured/618366

    if all they have is 35,000 people, then they're delusional to think they'll topple anything, even if they bring women and children with them as human shields. even if it was all men, that just amounts to the number of people after Friday prayers at 2 large mosques. any big enough mosque in india or pakistan has roughly 15-20,000 people at Jum3ah

    i was under the impression they have a few hundred thousand closing in on a million
     
  6. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    i dunno if tahir reads sunniport, but right after i wrote that post, he spoke to some reporter on ary news, and he said imran khan should now pray 3isha prayers and rest, and they'll take care of the rest of the "karawaay" in the morning
     
  7. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    in all of this march of "jumhooriyat" ...

    how many people would have missed their daily prayers?

    and how many women would be bey-purdah and harassed by men? (there were news reports of the party's own workers ( both pat and pti) flirting and eve-teasing at times)

    did tahir announce before he commence his march "guys, you need to honor the prayer times and can't leave salah at any cost"?

    when they do sit in at the "dharna" - are there any arrangements made for people to offer their daily prayers?

    will tahir lead his idiot prayers in salah when they're camped outside the parliament house?

    or does he carry the sin of putting people in situations where they will miss many of their prayers!
     
  8. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    or maybe nawaz shareef has a back up plan of bringing in a counter march of his own supporters to sit against the idiots following padri and khan (similar experiments worked successfully in Turkey with Erdogan)

    but then with the mob psychology, would be a very volatile situation no matter who pledges how much non-violence!
     
  9. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    i was watching the news now

    i dunno who's piggy backing on whom, tahir on the equally moronic and hysterical imran khan or khan on tahir

    but i dunno if this march of citizens will end up like the iranian khomeini's takeover in 1979... they've got reasonably huge numbers of people behind them including women, children and elderly

    does this march have the potential to take over the "system" and maybe khan will be the new political head with padri as the supreme "religious" leader, the same way it works in iran?

    or is it just a gust of bad wind and Islamabad will come back to normal?

    first i was thinking just khan and tahir have their supplies and containers, but the rest of the awam can't afford to be away from their work, home, schools, colleges, life in general, etc. for days on end, just camping out on the streets... for one thing they need rations and supplies, food, amenities like toilets etc

    where will they get it from? and perhaps nawaz sharif pulled a smart one on them, let them march, sit on the streets for a few days and then get tired and go back home when they need food, work, money etc. and have no other choice... surely they can't just camp out in the red zone indefinitely, or even for a fortnight

    but now i'm thinking maybe padri and khan are funded by western money... who's paying for the costs incurred by all these marches... who's picking up the bill?

    given padri's status as an evil dajjal who sold his soul to the devil himself, and khan not far behind, it is well plausible that this thing is financed by the west just like libyan revolution and so on

    i dunno how the government and bureaucratic life in Islamabad will function tomorrow, given these guys are in front of central buildings like the supreme court and the parliament house and so on and will be blocking roads and all

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    it seems the scholars of the various sects of pak have issued a joint statement saying that it is their right to protest but they can't occupy places like this and bring life and business of the government or their fellow citizens to a standstill... but it didn't seem to have an effect on padri or khan

    also some big shot military general has also said that all the buildings in that red zone, like supreme court etc., are symbols of the nation itself and they must be respected...

    maybe nawaz shareef did pull a smart one on them, by letting them march, and not provoke them in any way... to make all these people look like fools for insulting Pakistan's state symbols..., and if the army issues any direct orders and they violate it, then all these clowns will be guilty of disrespecting their own army as well...

    khan has said he doesn't give a damn for the army either

    Allah knows what will happen to pak in the next few days

    but one thing's certain

    looking at all the idiots marching behind padri, you can try to bizarrely visualize the real life manifestation of the hadith of people following the dajjal!
     
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  11. abu Hasan

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    now, suppose he thought so, a simple 'no' would have sufficed; instead theatrics and high-drama.

    nobody said that mistaking someone to be mahdi is kufr.

    tahir padri doesn't know basics of islam. and he has to still explain the shariah rulings:

    - what is the status of someone swearing on the blessed shoes of RasulAllah SallAllahu `alayhi wa sallam? is it valid?

    - what is the adab of a person who swears on the Glory (izzat) of Allah sub'Hanahu wa ta'ala and the blessed shoes of the Prophet SallAllahu `alayhi wa sallam in the same breath - without any pause.

    - what is the status of the oath in which a person touches the qur'an and claims that if i am lying, let me be deprived of the intercession of the Prophet SallAllahu `alayhi wa sallam.

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  12. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    he's gone from dajjalic to plain neurotic and pathetic
     
  13. abu Hasan

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    it is clear to anyone watching that he is a politician and is not a scholar. even the interviewer - who probably does not claim to be shaykh al-islam - shudders at the audacity of this dajjal and even distances from the dajjal's barking.

    watch at 11.36: the guy says: "sir, let Allah ta'ala keep the intercession of the Prophet for all of us".

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    this is a challenge to the dajjal tahir and all his minhaji minions: prove that a liar will not get shafa'at of RasulAllah SallAllahu alayhi wa sallam.

    and by this stupid idiotic - jahilana bakwas - tahir padri not only effectively shuts himself out of intercession, but also makes iftara on RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam.

    because it is established and ijma'a that RasulAllah SallAllahu alayhi wa sallam will do shafa'ah for sinners including those who commit kabayir such as adultery, drinking, murder.

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    and if he quotes a qur'anic verse on la'anat it only shows how shallow his purported knowledge is - and how stupid are the minhaji morons who follow the dajjal.

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    mini-dajjal is disgusting.
     
  14. kattarsunni

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  16. kattarsunni

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    He states that he does not want a 'theocracy'. If Pakistan was not ostensibly made for Islam then Tahir should simply call for unity with India, as both countries are secular.

    Tahir has a utopian dream of halving the price of food and housing every Pakistani. Good luck to him on that.

    'We want democracy and democracy.' Well that is a simple rejection of Islamic ruling system.

    He also claims he wants to stop 'takfiriyat' where no one is allowed to carry out 'takfir'. Would that include Qadiyanis?

    He wants devolution of Pakistan. That would mean the break up of Pakistan.

    'Sunni Ittihad Council' is a part of this.

    Some of the Peerkhane that support him are landowners who oppress people in Pakistan.
     
  17. abu Hasan

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    the point is will foolish people and people who were hoodwinked (rolls-eyes) into his 'shaykh al-islam' caper:

    will they wake up? or blindly follow the piper to the mountains and off the cliff?

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    those who praised him before, have a golden chance to throw away this baggage and do tawbah.

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    wa billahi't tawfiq.
     
  18. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    thankfully, politicians are now calling his party as a "cult" - yes that's the word they used.

    this is a golden opportunity for Sunni ulema to issue a few hard fatwas against him.
     
  19. Ghulam

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    http://www.minhaj.org/english/tid/2...arch-lays-out-10-point-revolution-agenda.html

    he is going on about the hazara kafirs here maybe he wants qadiyanis to have a province

    'Minority rights; all necessary rights to minority will be ensured. Gilgit Baltistan will also be made a province'

    padri had been sent to destroy the state of Pakistan

    'Devolution; of powers as practiced in America, Canada and other European countries. We will create more provinces'

    padri will also push his old deviancies under the guise of 'equality'

    'Rights; provision of rights to women. And equality of sex will be ensured'
     
  20. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    those who have been monitoring this dajjal closely since the 80's have told me that as he has won more and more western favor his rhetoric against them has been more tamed, especially during the citizenship process/after getting his canadian passport, he has been mute on qadiyanis

    the qadiyanis are no different than the yazidis of iraq, and there is a lot of western support for them and a lot of pressure on Muslim leadership to accept them as Muslims. but alhamdulillah at least as of now, despite all the social, political, and religious waywardness, on this issue at least the awam isn't the normal sheeple it is on other matters, and getting them to luuurrrve the qadiyani kafirs will be an uphill battle for just about any political or 'religious' leader.

    "hypothetically" speaking even tahir can't be so dumb so as to invite the ire of every sect of pakistan - Sunni, deobandi, ahle hadith, jamate Islami and probably shias too, but then every time someone said "even tahir can't be that dumb", he has stooped to a new low and proven his critics wrong. Allahu a3lam, what he will do. at the end of the day, it is "not intrinsically impossible" for tahir to accept qadiyanis as his bosom buddies. i just hope he and his rotten son meet the same fate as zulfiqar bhutto and salman taseer
     

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