Imam Mahdi

[Ghulam]

Look at who the Lebanese Shaytan is sat with here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1P7qe7Em1E

It's sad that Pakstanis with inferiority complexes like Pirzada Imdad from Retford invite idiots like this to their events.

Pakstaani Maulvis should be careful who they promote

 

[Nawazuddin]

JazakAllah brother Nawaz for your input and useful quotes. However what we intend to tackle here is the claims made which have no validity in the Quran and Sunna, or the ijma'.

I see and admire your point of view and earnest endeavour but one needs to be accurate in his presentation of the truth. Brother Asrar quotes the hadith from sahih bukhari but overlooks the author's intent and interpretation in the matter. This makes his case weak and actually backfires because it comes across as half truth. one cannot advance in the name of gospel truth a flawed argument.

 

[kattarsunni]

The Euphrates drying before the appearance of Imam Mahdi has a basis. It is based upon the narrations of Nu'aym bin Hammad. This was the understanding of Imam Suyuti, Imam Barzanji and a host of others, It has validation within Sunni understanding.

But seeing as you are extra cautious in your method and critical academically, what is your view on the following:

The Quran we have today is not one hundred percent pure as the ink has urine, and when Imam Mahdi appears he will re write it in saffron. This will lead to the Quran being comprehended completely and higher spirituality!! Listen to this from 31 minutes onwards:

 

[Nawazuddin]

It is based upon the narrations of Nu'aym bin Hammad

Fine. Then present from there and not Bukhari who holds the opposite opinion about the report....bytheway, al-Fitan has a lot of other interesting stuff about Imam al-Mahdi(a) such as his afzaliyyat over Shaykhayn, Sufyani from the progeny of Abu Sufyan waging war against Imam Mahdi(a), etc.

what is your view on the following

Preposterous to say the least.
and out of interest, Does ink have urine in it? someone with knowledge about the matter should enlighten us. But to be honest, that comment is so bakwas, I can't believe it.


as for Imam al-Mahdi ibn Imam Hasan al-askari...then in sunni literature we have that Imam Mahdi(a) will be either from Imam Hasan or Imam Husayn's progeny but there is no report prior to first hundred years AH about Ibn Imam Hasan al-Askari though a considerable number amongt ahl al-sunnah stalwarts have also held that belief such as Hazrat Khawaja Parsa, the Khalifah of Hazrat syed Baha al-din Naqsband Bukhari, the founder of naqshbadi silsila wrote that in his fasl al-khitab, etc. To my surprise, Shah Wali Allah Dehlavi in his Nawadir al-usool takes a sanad of hadith back to al-Mahdi ibn Hasan al-askari....

The fact of the matter is that the existence of the person of Imam al-Mahdi(a) is certain but the particular details about some aspects of his life are a matter of probability but definately nothing like urine ink non-sense.

 

[AbdalQadir]

then in sunni literature

you (as in, personally) follow Sunni literature or ithna3ashari literature?

do you believe Maula Ali is afdal over Shaykhayn or vice versa?

 

[kattarsunni]

Fine. Then present from there and not Bukhari who holds the opposite opinion about the report....

With that line of reasoning no one should quote from a hadith work unless their opinion or school is in accordance with that of the author. Hanafi's should not quote from the six books of hadith because the opinions of the authors are against their school in matters of branches!!

bytheway, al-Fitan has a lot of other interesting stuff about Imam al-Mahdi(a) such as his afzaliyyat over Shaykhayn, Sufyani from the progeny of Abu Sufyan waging war against Imam Mahdi(a), etc.

Yes it does. And other works are filled with interesting narrations. Each narration is studied accordingly.

 

[Nawazuddin]

With that line of reasoning no one should quote from a hadith work unless their opinion or school is in accordance with that of the author

There is absolutely nothing wrong with quoting, the problem is with the unqualified quotation to give an impression not intended by the author of the quote. Of course, this is for an academic context, you may continue in that fashion...