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Ahmad Yaar
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There is some overlap with the reason he is called a muffakir aswell
Deobandis call ahlussunah being qabr parast, what would they call their HAKEEM al-ummat, who believes that ants of a cemetery are more benefitial for potency than ants from any other place, and then fuzlah of goats is very valuable to him? i wouldn't wonder if he had suggested an intake of one or two every morning like nehro used to drink urine of cows.
This khabees ul ummat had a filthy mind since his childhood, like urinating on his elder brother's head, keeping filthy clothes of his nani as tabarruk (he is the narrator of this hikayat. How could he stay behind and don't seek barakah from his nani's feces.)
And there are more hikayaat of his depravity.
This khabees ul ummat had a filthy mind since his childhood, like urinating on his elder brother's head, keeping filthy clothes of his nani as tabarruk (he is the narrator of this hikayat. How could he stay behind and don't seek barakah from his nani's feces.)
And there are more hikayaat of his depravity.
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some of deobandi dirty hikayaat have been collected in the following books (of course, the original source is their own books)
لطائف دیوبند
دیوبندی علماء کی حکایات
لطائف دیوبند
دیوبندی علماء کی حکایات
Wadood
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i don't know Urdu, however, the other posts have given the message of this thread.
faraz of seekersdigest who labels ashraf ali as hakeem ul umma, has called him a scholar par excellence. He said that he came across a fatwa of ashraf ali explaining and approving of the sufi zikr with hadra in details that stands par excellence. faraz has presented other works of ashraf ali to show how erudite a scholar he was. faraz's argument is that one has to do justice by looking at the works of this man that clearly indicate he was a scholar that had to be reckoned with. His proposition is that both deobandis and barelwis [these to the most degree] have misrepresented/mis-treated/lied against this scholar, whose positions were, in reality, on par with sunnis in the arab world [like Shaykh Alawi al Maliki raHimahuAllah ta'ala].
As such, faraz has been disowned by deobandis on deobandi forum as bid'ati.
His deobandi student salman has translated the hadra fatwa on deobandi forum, and has interpreted it. faqir deobandi of ghair-marifat.net was present there.
The reason for mentioning faraz here is that, a shady individual will praise and promote a shady individual. how good is faraz's character? he puts women on stage to speak to a male audience in closed, confined rooms. women are not far off from men in closed, confined rooms, he promotes a fiqh of brother-sister interaction to control these matters, which is quite astonishing, considering the strict segregation of sexes practiced by dobbies in his local dobbie mosques.
faraz of seekersdigest who labels ashraf ali as hakeem ul umma, has called him a scholar par excellence. He said that he came across a fatwa of ashraf ali explaining and approving of the sufi zikr with hadra in details that stands par excellence. faraz has presented other works of ashraf ali to show how erudite a scholar he was. faraz's argument is that one has to do justice by looking at the works of this man that clearly indicate he was a scholar that had to be reckoned with. His proposition is that both deobandis and barelwis [these to the most degree] have misrepresented/mis-treated/lied against this scholar, whose positions were, in reality, on par with sunnis in the arab world [like Shaykh Alawi al Maliki raHimahuAllah ta'ala].
As such, faraz has been disowned by deobandis on deobandi forum as bid'ati.
His deobandi student salman has translated the hadra fatwa on deobandi forum, and has interpreted it. faqir deobandi of ghair-marifat.net was present there.
The reason for mentioning faraz here is that, a shady individual will praise and promote a shady individual. how good is faraz's character? he puts women on stage to speak to a male audience in closed, confined rooms. women are not far off from men in closed, confined rooms, he promotes a fiqh of brother-sister interaction to control these matters, which is quite astonishing, considering the strict segregation of sexes practiced by dobbies in his local dobbie mosques.
Unbeknown
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brother wadood you are missing on a lot then (if i may call it that). these bandits have put graphic vulgarism in their books with a shameless unapologetic directness hard to find save in an X-rated magazine!
The 'players' in these 'adult-games' are none other than the 'hakeem-ul-ummats' and 'akabir-e-deoband' themselves.
i really look forward to the day when someone takes upon himself to translate these into english. he will need a lot of grit and virility. it's THAT disgusting. Like collecting samples of excreta from public-lavatories in India!
i have only heard a couple of these passages and have no appetite to dive further into these deobandi-manholes. but i am sure that even an introductory translation (yes, its that vast) of these will be enough to pull the rug from under the feet of these contemptible dogs and once again send them on the defensive, forcing them to churn out more cover-ups and explanations. but they'll have a hard time trying to explain these away. tee-hee!
i personally know a scholar who has a VOLUMINOUS collection of photocopies of all these writings but none of them in english. perhaps someone can do a dissertation on this:
'Hedonism in Religious Literature: A case-study of morally compromising accounts of religious figures affiliated to the Darul-Uloom Deoband'
Here are some samples in english: [Reader discretion advised]
1. http://letsknowtruth.blogspot.in/2010/01/ashraf-ali-thanvi-analysis.html
2. https://sites.google.com/site/issun341/dobandifilthscannedimages
[See scanned images 10, 11, 12, 13 for urdu. scroll to last section for english]
yuck!
The 'players' in these 'adult-games' are none other than the 'hakeem-ul-ummats' and 'akabir-e-deoband' themselves.
i really look forward to the day when someone takes upon himself to translate these into english. he will need a lot of grit and virility. it's THAT disgusting. Like collecting samples of excreta from public-lavatories in India!
i have only heard a couple of these passages and have no appetite to dive further into these deobandi-manholes. but i am sure that even an introductory translation (yes, its that vast) of these will be enough to pull the rug from under the feet of these contemptible dogs and once again send them on the defensive, forcing them to churn out more cover-ups and explanations. but they'll have a hard time trying to explain these away. tee-hee!
i personally know a scholar who has a VOLUMINOUS collection of photocopies of all these writings but none of them in english. perhaps someone can do a dissertation on this:
'Hedonism in Religious Literature: A case-study of morally compromising accounts of religious figures affiliated to the Darul-Uloom Deoband'
Here are some samples in english: [Reader discretion advised]
1. http://letsknowtruth.blogspot.in/2010/01/ashraf-ali-thanvi-analysis.html
2. https://sites.google.com/site/issun341/dobandifilthscannedimages
[See scanned images 10, 11, 12, 13 for urdu. scroll to last section for english]
yuck!
Wadood
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Brothern unbeknown, I did not know what ashraf ali wrote. Now I know.
This is pornographic material. There are teenagers who visit Sunniport.
Ghulam-e-Raza is a brother who is a teenager. It is offensive for our children to read this porno.
They should avoid this thread, and not come in here at all.
This is pornographic material. There are teenagers who visit Sunniport.
Ghulam-e-Raza is a brother who is a teenager. It is offensive for our children to read this porno.
They should avoid this thread, and not come in here at all.
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faraz a Church leader
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Qasim Hanafi Ridwi
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Ghulam said:
astaghfirullah it is makruh tahreemi to enter a church in Islam according to the Ahnaaf Kiraam what are these people doing.
Na khuda hi mila na wisaal sanam,
Na idhar ke rahe na udhar ke rahe.
It maybe permissible for him in the deobandi mazhab,
Wadood
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reference:
http: // spa.qibla.com
Can I go to Church with a Friend?
Answered by Shaykh Faraz Rabbani
Question:
A non-Muslim co-worker of mine has asked me to attend a church service with him, would it be permissible to do so?
Answer:
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[FR:]
Walaikum assalam,
In the Hanafi school, it is prohibitively disliked and sinful to enter the worship places of disbelievers without a strong, overwhelming interest. This does not appear to be the case in your situation. Hadiths tell us that such places are the gathering places of devils. Another reason for impermissibility is because of the impermissible, shirk-based imagery that they contain. [Ibn Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar; Shafii school: Ramli, Nihayat al-Muhtaj Sharh al-Minhaj]
If we are commanded to stay away from places of sin and vice (such as bars and night clubs), then what about places where the ultimate sin takes place: associating partners with Allah?
Wisdom would entail simply making an excuse to get out of the situation.
When there is an overwhelming benefit in going (such as giving a talk on Islam, etc), and no fear of personal harm in doing so, one may go. It should be kept in mind that avoiding harm is given precedence in Islam to attaining unto benefits, especially when the harm is likely and the benefits uncertain.
The way of traditional Islam is that a committed Muslim would be to have scholars one consults regarding such matters. Even scholars consult other scholars before serious decisions. It is from the sunna to seek advice and to consult others. The young seek the advice of elders (in knowledge, experience, or age). The elders seek advice of peers or the young. Even the Beloved of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) was commanded, �And seek their counsel regarding your affairs.�
And Allah alone gives success.
Walaikum assalam,
Faraz Rabbani.
http: // spa.qibla.com
Can I go to Church with a Friend?
Answered by Shaykh Faraz Rabbani
Question:
A non-Muslim co-worker of mine has asked me to attend a church service with him, would it be permissible to do so?
Answer:
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[FR:]
Walaikum assalam,
In the Hanafi school, it is prohibitively disliked and sinful to enter the worship places of disbelievers without a strong, overwhelming interest. This does not appear to be the case in your situation. Hadiths tell us that such places are the gathering places of devils. Another reason for impermissibility is because of the impermissible, shirk-based imagery that they contain. [Ibn Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar; Shafii school: Ramli, Nihayat al-Muhtaj Sharh al-Minhaj]
If we are commanded to stay away from places of sin and vice (such as bars and night clubs), then what about places where the ultimate sin takes place: associating partners with Allah?
Wisdom would entail simply making an excuse to get out of the situation.
When there is an overwhelming benefit in going (such as giving a talk on Islam, etc), and no fear of personal harm in doing so, one may go. It should be kept in mind that avoiding harm is given precedence in Islam to attaining unto benefits, especially when the harm is likely and the benefits uncertain.
The way of traditional Islam is that a committed Muslim would be to have scholars one consults regarding such matters. Even scholars consult other scholars before serious decisions. It is from the sunna to seek advice and to consult others. The young seek the advice of elders (in knowledge, experience, or age). The elders seek advice of peers or the young. Even the Beloved of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) was commanded, �And seek their counsel regarding your affairs.�
And Allah alone gives success.
Walaikum assalam,
Faraz Rabbani.
Ahmad Yaar
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More choice pearls from Hakim al-Ummah
Mufti Ashraf ul-Qadri reads a particularly telling passage from the malfuzat of the Deobandi's Hakim al-Ummah.
Be warned this is not one for the faint of heart:
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=KCvPhHQtWhc
Mufti Ashraf ul-Qadri reads a particularly telling passage from the malfuzat of the Deobandi's Hakim al-Ummah.
Be warned this is not one for the faint of heart:
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=KCvPhHQtWhc
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غلام رسول
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That incident was about Bi Ummi, the grandmother of the founder of Tablighi Jama’at, Molvi Ilyas Kandhelvi. This incident is mentioned in the book Tazkira-tul-Khalīl, written by Molvi ‘Ashiq Ilahi Meerathi, Pg. 96-97:
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بی امی کی عمر طویل ہوئی اور انھوں نے نواسوں کی اولاد کو بھی دیکھا۔ اخیر عمر میں بصارت اور چلنے پھرنے سے معذور ہو گئی تھیں اور مرض الموت میں تینسال کامل صاحب فراش رہیں مگر نہ قلبی و لسانی ذکر اللہ میں فرق آیا اور نہ صبر و رضا بر قضا میں کمی لا حق ہوئی۔ جس مریض کو تین سال مرض اسہال میں اسطرح گذریں کہ کروٹ بدلنا بھی دشوار ہو اس کے متعلق یہ خیال بے موقع نہ تھا کہ بستر کی بدبو دھوبی کے یہاں بھی نہ جاۓ گی۔ مگر دیکھنے والوں نے دیکھا کہغسل کے لئے چارپائی سے اتارنے ہر پوتڑے نکالے گئے جو نیچے رکھدیئے جاتے تھے تو ان میں بدبو کی جگہ خوشبو اور ایسی نرالی مہک پھوٹتی تھی کہ ایک دوسرےکو سنگھاتا تھا اور ہر مرد و عورت تعجب کرتا چنانچہ بغیر دھلواۓ ان کو تبرک بنا کر رکھ لیا گیا۔
Bi Ummi lived to a ripe age and saw her great-grandchildren. At the end of her life, she lost her sight and could not walk, and she remained bedridden for three years in a state of terminal illness, but there was no difference in her Qalbī and Lisānī Zikr of Allah, nor was there any decrease in her patience and contentment. For a patient who has had loose motions for three years in such a way that it is difficult to even turn over, it was not unreasonable to think that the stench of the bed was such that even the washerman would not go near it. But the onlookers saw that upon lifting her from the bed for bathing, when folded pieces of cloth were removed from the bed, which were kept underneath her (to absorb the filth), instead of a foul smell such an amazing fragrance emanated from them that each person would give the cloth to the other to smell, and all present were astonished. So the cloths were not washed and were kept as Tabarruk.
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In the book Kamalat e Ashrafia, Pg. 142-143 Thanvi gives the following Fatwa:
ایک صاحب نے سوال کیا کہ اگر گیارھویں کی مٹھائی آۓ تو اس کو کیا کریں فرمایا لیکر کہیں دفن کر دے اور رد کرنے میں عوام کے اندر اشتعال کا اندیشہہے۔
Someone asked if they receive Mithaī of Giyarvī Sharīf, what should they do with it, the answer is that it should be buried, and there is a fear of provoking anger among the people in destroying it.
According to the Deobandi Akabirīn, keeping pieces of soiled cloth as Tabarruk is permissible, but the Mithaī of Giyarvī Sharīf is so impure that it cannot even be fed to an animal, rather it should be buried. This is the hate they have for the Awliya.