Cult Mind Control

Moriarty said:
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The Stanford Prison experiment appears to be just a ruse to rationalize the unbearable atrocities inflicted on the innocent muslims unjustly held at secret prisons by agents of the faceless, and equally heartless, imperialists. It's a good pretext to exonerate all but the on-duty staff from charges of torture and extracting false confessions. And simultaneously claiming that those thuggish officers are actually normal, sensible humans affected by the prison environment.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

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Also, it has been argued that selection bias may have played a role in the results. Researchers from Western Kentucky University (Thomas J. Carnahan, PhD and Sam McFarland, PhD) recruited students for a study using an advertisement similar to the one used in the Stanford Prison Experiment, with some ads saying "a psychological study" (the control group), and some with the words "prison life" as originally worded in Dr. Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Experiment. It was found that students who responded to the classified advertisement for the "prison study" were higher in traits such as social dominance, aggression, authoritarianism, etc. and were lower in traits related to empathy and altruism when statistically compared to the control group participants. Carnahan & McFarland attempted to recruit students using a 3rd classified advertisement geared towards "helping behaviors;" however, not enough participants volunteered for the study to show any statistical significance.

Comparisons to Abu Ghraib

When acts of prisoner torture and abuse at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq were publicized in March 2004, Zimbardo himself, who paid close attention to the details of the story, was struck by the similarity with his own experiment. He was dismayed by official military and government representatives' shifting the blame for the torture and abuses in the Abu Ghraib American military prison on to "a few bad apples" rather than acknowledging it as possibly systemic problems of a formally established military incarceration system.

Eventually, Zimbardo became involved with the defense team of lawyers representing one of the Abu Ghraib prison guards, Staff Sergeant Ivan "Chip" Frederick. He was granted full access to all investigation and background reports, and testified as an expert witness in SSG Frederick's court martial, which resulted in an eight-year prison sentence for Frederick in October 2004.

Zimbardo drew from his participation in the Frederick case to write the book The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil, published by Random House in 2007, which deals with the striking similarities between his own Stanford Prison Experiment and the Abu Ghraib abuses. unquote.

but this one is more unnerving:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
 
In light of the recent release of 'The Killer Mistake' it would be good to place the Keller Cult auction on this thread. Used miswak was sold for 450 dollars and and used shoes for 750 dollars. Aside from the iron marked t shirt.

http://alsiraat.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/barakaauction.pdf

Some have compared Keller to JimJones. Jim Jones was overtly political. Keller is not so. Nevertheless he supports the 'two state solution'.

I don't know what the future may hold. However, there is a consensus throughout the world amongst everyone associated with the Israelis and the United States that there should be two nations in Palestine, that they should return to the 1967 borders, and that there should be sovereignty for each. And that Israel and Palestine should have peace and respect for each other within their own national boundaries.

Anything that can facilitate the implementation of this consensus will be beneficial. This is not something I'm pulling out of my pocket, but something plain to whoever looks at the press in Europe and throughout the world, and anywhere people are not Israeli, or worried about being re-elected in the United States' political process.

We hope that this consensus can lead to a just and lasting peace. And if it serves as a wake up call to see what's happening, then it will be a good thing that we may hope for something positive.
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http://islam.uga.edu/kellerinterview.html

That was originally on masud.co.uk

And what is meant by the fact that he does not know what the future holds?

The Last Hour would not come until the Muslims will fight against the Jews. The Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: ‘Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him;’ but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.
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This view is not surprising from some who is involved with the Jordanian Royals and supports the Amman Message:

http://www.cifiaonline.com/theammanmessage.htm

The background to 'Imaan, Kufr and Takfir' is linked to the Amman Message and other schemes.

I wander how much the cult members will pay for the original draft?
 
Moriarty to be fair to nuh Keller he didn't mention the 2 state solution in the context that you seem to be making out. Rather he said in clear words: "everyone associated with the Israelis and U.S...." I don't think he deems himself to be associated with neither.

To be fair the problem us Sunnis demonstrate quite often is generalisations
based on passed errors. In other words if Nuh Kellers mistakes are unrelated to his non mistakes or his merits then we must draw a distinction between them and outline where he went wrong and leave it as that.

That's the only way we may convince his followers that he's fallible and human like everyone else. Otherwise if we persist in childish digs and half criticisms we'd merely succeed in making his followers more obstinate and resentful of Sunni Islam.
Now we surely don't want that because that's exactly what we're supposed to be fighting against.

Is it not?
 
It is not out of context. He states further down:

Anything that can facilitate the implementation of this consensus will be beneficial.
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And he states:

We hope that this consensus can lead to a just and lasting peace. And if it serves as a wake up call to see what's happening, then it will be a good thing that we may hope for something positive.
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Where has this man ever condemned Israel even though he is living in Jordan?

He has refuted Sunnis but where has he refuted the 'Amman Message' which is right under his nose?

http://www.cifiaonline.com/theammanmessage.htm

Any brainwashed disciples who buy a used miswak for 450 dollars will never listen to reasoning.

So here Nuh Keller has signed the Amman Message:

http://ammanmessage.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21&Itemid=34

So the Keller mistake is not limited to 'Iman, Kufr and Takfir'. It has a larger agenda. Prince Ghazi has a big role to play in this. To read what he has to say is interesting:

http://ammanmessage.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=29

Ghazi funds the Fons Vitae publishing house.

Tahir Qadri is also associated with the same royals and regarding him:

It is reported in Jang, Canada, that Qadri issued a Fatwa for Muslims not raise voice about Zionist brutalities in Muslim countries, including drone attacks killing large number of innocent civilians and destroying their houses.

The Fatwa was issued in front of print and electronic media representatives. It is reported that high ranking CIA and FBI officials were also invited to the function.
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http://www.cifiaonline.com/drtahirulqadri.htm

Amman Message has agreed to:

(a) They specifically recognized the (religious) validity of all 8 Mathhabs (legal schools) of Sunni, Shi'a and Ibadhi Islam; of traditional Islamic Theology (Ash'arism); of Islamic Mysticism (Sufism), and of true Salafi thought, and came to a precise definition of who is a Muslim.
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So no longer four Sunni schools. What else has Keller and others have agreed to?

(b) Based upon this definition they forbade takfir (declarations of apostasy) between Muslims (sects).
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That is the context of 'Iman, Kufr and Takfir'.

Jordanian Royals, Israel, America, Perennial Thought, and Sufi Cults all have some common interests. This sums up what stream they're on:

http://www.cifiaonline.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=155078955
 
Fake Imam Mahdi

From the following article posted above:

The Conspirators behind projecting the fake Khalifah, are already propagating on electronic media/Internet that Imam Mahdi (as) is already born and is (probably) living in Jordon. They claim that they know about him and he will declare himself as Mahdi (as) soon. It is also said that the fake Khalifa (King Abdullah II) will handover the reigns of Khilafah to him. May be this fake Mahdi will also be a member of Jordanian Royal family or a person already choosen by these conspirators.

O'our Lord, kindly save us from these hoax people and from this tribulation in the world. And save our Iman from these people. Ameen.

The current revolution in Syria, and Qadri's failed revolution in Pakistan are also an anklet in the above chain of fake Islamic Caliphate.
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Who are the candidates for Mahdi in the Sufi Cults? One of them is Habib Ali Jifry. He even a minority of other sects entertain this notion:

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f20/would-you-do-bayaa-habib-ali-zayn-38778/index3.html

http://www.sunniport.com/masabih/showthread.php?t=8547

http://eshaykh.com/doctrine/habib-ali-jiffri-imam-al-mahdi/

http://wup-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=12272

Cults entertain this idea by: 1) saying it explicitly that their cult leader is Mahdi 2) alluding to the idea in the inner circle and not saying it explicitly 3) claiming their cult leader is in contact with the 'imam of the time'.
 
An Australian interview of a cult expert:

http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/2007/01/sot_20070128.mp3

What It Is Like Escaping From a Cult:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/10375807/What-its-like-to-escape-from-a-cult.html

I don’t see any difference between the groups that I hear of today: the leaders’ names might change, their philosophies might change, but their techniques are always the same. They use psychological coercion, thought control, radicalisation techniques, food and sleep deprivation, and frequent inductions of a trance-like state.
And they work best on people with above average intelligence. A flexible mind is a healthy mind. And that’s what they exploit.
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It took me about 11 months of withdrawal, which today would be labelled post traumatic stress disorder, before I was fully myself again.
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The course cost $225 and took place over two evenings and a weekend in a motel on the outskirts of the city. By the end of the course I’d handed over $1550 - all the money in my account at the time. I was as high as a kite. One night I drove home at 115 mph, feeling invincible, and convinced that if the police tried to catch me they wouldn’t be able to. I was a law unto myself; I felt like one of the elite.
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Many cult members suffer from 'cognitive dissonance'.

Cognitive dissonance refers to a situation involving conflicting attitudes, beliefs or behaviors.

This produces a feeling of discomfort leading to an alteration in one of the attitudes, beliefs or behaviors to reduce the discomfort and restore balance etc.

Cognitive dissonance theory suggests that we have an inner drive to hold all our attitudes and beliefs in harmony and avoid disharmony (or dissonance).

For example, when people smoke (behavior) and they know that smoking causes cancer (cognition).

A powerful motive to maintain cognitive consistency can give rise to irrational and sometimes maladaptive behavior.

We hold many cognitions about the world and ourselves; when they clash, a discrepancy is evoked, resulting in a state of tension known as cognitive dissonance. As the experience of dissonance is unpleasant, we are motivated to reduce or eliminate it, and achieve consonance (i.e. agreement).

Cognitive dissonance was first investigated by Leon Festinger, arising out of a participant observation study of a cult which believed that the earth was going to be destroyed by a flood, and what happened to its members — particularly the really committed ones who had given up their homes and jobs to work for the cult — when the flood did not happen.

While fringe members were more inclined to recognize that they had made fools of themselves and to "put it down to experience", committed members were more likely to re-interpret the evidence to show that they were right all along (the earth was not destroyed because of the faithfulness of the cult members).

Read the complete article:

http://www.simplypsychology.org/cognitive-dissonance.html

Video on cognitive dissonance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIpacdGcyJc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
 
Question: What Is Cognitive Dissonance?

People tend to seek consistency in their beliefs and perceptions. So what happens when one of our beliefs conflicts with another previously held belief? The term cognitive dissonance is used to describe the feeling of discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs. When there is a discrepancy between beliefs and behaviors, something must change in order to eliminate or reduce the dissonance.

This is what the cult members suffer from. Imagine a former admirer of some scholar (like Ala Hazrat) who changes his views when his new 'guide' switches his views (like Keller or any of these cult leaders). Many of them go through cognitive dissonance.

Some of the would have to cope with dissonance of how the practices they carry out are valid in the sacred law?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqXKahsNXEM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcCILiG2N8c
 
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