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Assalamu alaykum, bismillah I hope you are all well and in the best of imaan. Bismillah there have been attacks on the ITS based upon faulty information, if any brother wishes to discuss certain things with me about the ITS, I am at University of Bradford, I welcome, however let me make this clear to you here and now, we are not sullah kulli, neither are my teachers students of Mufti Fazal Bandalwi, Mufti Shamsul Huda and Mufti Hassan Raza.

Bismillah I cannot admit there was certain events done, however that was due to a previous divided council.

Bismillah about our dealings with the madani society, please talk to the original founder and president, BTW that wasn't Hafiz Usman.

Bismillah can anyone tell me why Imaam Khalid Hussain has been branded Sullah Kulli? (genuine question)

jazakallah
 
@Ghulam

I know Usama Canon personally. He doesn't know me though.

Usama Canon has the potential to be the most genuine among all the HY conglomerate. At one point i thought about what this good guy is doing among these people making a business out of the Deen. If anyone among the HY group has the chance to change and really benefit Western Muslims, then it is Usama Canon.

I hope and pray that Allah changes his heart and moves him away from his teacher HY and his other teacher Zaid Shakir. Brothers in the UK should debate Usama Canon or meet him privately and show him the bid'ah of HY, Shaykh bin Bayyah, Shaykh Ali Juma, and see if he responds.

He has the potential to leave sullah kullism. It is rarely that they put him out for a tour. He is the only one that stayed away from the money laundering of these people and did not sell Deen to make money. But people change over time.
 
khandia and other sullah kullis out in full force tonight
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if I'm not mistaken, it was burhan khandia's father, qari ismayil, upon whose behest allama arshad wrote tablighi jama'at or another important work.
 
but who is the guy yasrab shah and what does his first name mean? i hope it is not the indo-persian substitute for yathrib.

astaghfirullah.
 
A_Wayfarer said:
I think one problem you definitely need to sort out is segregation, too much free-mixing for an islamic platform

Jazakallah Khair
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Bismillah brother what you have to understand is that we are at the University and there are guidelines we must follow, we try to segregate as much as possible, again, we asked mufti zahid about this issue, they allowed us to continue
 
the importance of Sunni societies in universities is very important - the majority of the generation we lost to devbandis was via there iSocs - Junaid keep up the good work may Allah tala increase your success. In Sha Allah.
 
Harris786 said:
the importance of Sunni societies in universities is very important - the majority of the generation we lost to devbandis was via there iSocs - Junaid keep up the good work may Allah tala increase your success. In Sha Allah.
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Our sunni masaajids have done a bad job (in general) in providing the youth with the correct basis and tools to be bale to protect their imaan, when they hit uni and the deviants come with one or 2 hadeeth, our youth become mesmerized and suffer a major inferiority complex, on ethat comprises of the notion that since the guy speaks a bit of arabic or can quote a few verses or hadeeth he understands and knows the deen better then me, so thus they get caught in their web of deceit and satart attending their study circles comprising of the awraad biddah, haraam and shirk.

We really need to take our masaajids back and get our ulema teaching ilme zuroor (for our time and circumstances) basic fiqh and aqaid with taqraar, establish your position with logical argumentation. Lack of quality tadrees is the reason why many of our youth reach college then university and get trapped by the deviants because lack of knowledge of ahle sunnat belief i.e. noor aur bashr, hazir nazir, hayaatun Nabi sallahu alayhi was salam, zayaarat ul qaboor, ilmul gayb etc
 
A_Wayfarer said:
I think one problem you definitely need to sort out is segregation, too much free-mixing for an islamic platform

Jazakallah Khair
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Bismillah brother, what you must understand, we don't control,the venues, those belong to the University.. you have to follow their rules...we have no control over this....
snaqshi said:
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Our sunni masaajids have done a bad job (in general) in providing the youth with the correct basis and tools to be bale to protect their imaan, when they hit uni and the deviants come with one or 2 hadeeth, our youth become mesmerized and suffer a major inferiority complex, on ethat comprises of the notion that since the guy speaks a bit of arabic or can quote a few verses or hadeeth he understands and knows the deen better then me, so thus they get caught in their web of deceit and satart attending their study circles comprising of the awraad biddah, haraam and shirk.

We really need to take our masaajids back and get our ulema teaching ilme zuroor (for our time and circumstances) basic fiqh and aqaid with taqraar, establish your position with logical argumentation. Lack of quality tadrees is the reason why many of our youth reach college then university and get trapped by the deviants because lack of knowledge of ahle sunnat belief i.e. noor aur bashr, hazir nazir, hayaatun Nabi sallahu alayhi was salam, zayaarat ul qaboor, ilmul gayb etc
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Bismillah what you must understand, is that many of the youth, have been disenchanced with the masaajids, many corrupt committee, with their "baraadri" control the masjid, we don't give up on them, however that is a working progress, alhamdullilah they have kept the masjid, upon the ahlusunnah wal jamaat creed, thereby allowing us time to change them, be it years, however the Universities are a more precarious situation, because the deviants are there in force... we need to challenge this threat...
 
junaid7861 said:
...however the Universities are a more precarious situation, because the deviants are there in force... we need to challenge this threat...
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Salaam brother junaid, the best way to to challenge the thread of deviancy is by preparing our youth properly before they get there. Many of our youth know how to make wudu' read the qur'an in many cases badly, how to read salaH and the 6 kalimah...thats it we are just not equipping to be able to defend their imaan/creed.

take for instance the major awraad of the wahabiyyah viz. kullo biddah dalaalah, everyone has heard this hadeeth, but do any of the ulema, hufaaz or qur'a hazraat in sunni or brailvi masaajids teach what this hadeeth actually means? If they did 99.9% of the issues at uni would be resolved.....
 
junaid7861 said:
Bismillah brother, what you must understand, we don't control,the venues, those belong to the University.. you have to follow their rules...we have no control over this....


Bismillah what you must understand, is that many of the youth, have been disenchanced with the masaajids, many corrupt committee, with their "baraadri" control the masjid, we don't give up on them, however that is a working progress, alhamdullilah they have kept the masjid, upon the ahlusunnah wal jamaat creed, thereby allowing us time to change them, be it years, however the Universities are a more precarious situation, because the deviants are there in force... we need to challenge this threat...
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Is this is the same comitee members whom took money from mosques to fund their sons and daughters education to make them doctors and pharamacist-now this modernists run these masjids comitee just as bad? But strangely no one raises a eye lid because its all honkey dorey as they update facebook and twitter feeds on a daily basis.

Typical!
 
Ethical_Barelvi said:
Is this is the same comitee members whom took money from mosques to fund their sons and daughters education to make them doctors and pharamacist-now this modernists run these masjids comitee just as bad? But strangely no one raises a eye lid because its all honkey dorey as they update facebook and twitter feeds on a daily basis.

Typical!
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Brother ethical_b i know of masaajid where the committee head (sadr) sent his own kids to a deobandi centre to learn qur'an and tadrees, but yet would do nothing about the tadrees in the very same mosque he was head of, now that what I am talking about. No one would say diddly squat (i think that's not an offensive word) since the other committee members were from the same braadari and further more only got qura'a hazraati who were either related to them or from their braadari even when there were better more suitable candidates. This (from my experience) is the same up and down the length and breadth of the UK, to these people with peanuts for brains the priority goes like this:

Number One priority person is from same braadari, whether they are of sunni aqeeda or not, being of same braadari is more important then the person being saHeeH ul aqeedah, that is the sorry state of affairs these days.

I re-itterate my point again give us good tadrees in our sunni masaajids, then we wont get cought in the web of deceit when we get to college and university., even if they just tought 1 hadeeth (the kullo biddah dalaalah....) and taught us the real essence of the meaning "biddah", half the issue would go away over night.
 
snaqshi said:
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Brother ethical_b i know of masaajid where the committee head (sadr) sent his own kids to a deobandi centre to learn qur'an and tadrees, but yet would do nothing about the tadrees in the very same mosque he was head of, now that what I am talking about. No one would say diddly squat (i think that's not an offensive word) since the other committee members were from the same braadari and further more only got qura'a hazraati who were either related to them or from their braadari even when there were better more suitable candidates. This (from my experience) is the same up and down the length and breadth of the UK, to these people with peanuts for brains the priority goes like this:

Number One priority person is from same braadari, whether they are of sunni aqeeda or not, being of same braadari is more important then the person being saHeeH ul aqeedah, that is the sorry state of affairs these days.
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Defiantly a sad state of affairs and it is true that it’s up and down… the country especially with the Pakistani communities?
I also know of Imams/Molvis who have sent there children to these deobandi boarding schools to learn Arabic ?

Believe it or not there is a female teacher with a deobandi background/upbringing who is teaching young sunni kids in a sunni mosque…
This “Deobandi” female teacher was teaching the kids not to kiss their thumbs because its bidah! … This was witnessed by another sunni female teacher




So the question is how long are these semi retired taxi drivers and plumbers with their "Baaradri Cults" in Mosque committees going to to run your Mosques?


You have been in the UK for now over 50 Years!

Answer: until more Sunni scholars are declared “Kafir” or “Deviant” by other Sunni scholars!

I personally blame this sad state of affairs on these Main scholars/pir’s… the reason why?
Because they have more power then any other Muslim in the UK to make any sort of change... but first someone has to unite them…

What a shame!

Pir Sayyid Irfan Shah Mashadi

Pir Sayyid Abdul Qadir Jilani

Pir Alauddin Siddiqui

Pir Sultan Fiaz-ul-Hassan

…others etc
 
Brothers do not believe a word this Junaid guy says. He says he's not a sulla Kulli but he teaches at Abu Bakr Masjid which is a hardcore deobandi Masjid. There's a snake amongst you guys and you fools are none the wiser. Junaid do you or do you not teach at Abu Bakr Masjid in Bradford?
 
Abu Khalwa said:
Brothers do not believe a word this Junaid guy says. He says he's not a sulla Kulli but he teaches at Abu Bakr Masjid which is a hardcore deobandi Masjid. There's a snake amongst you guys and you fools are none the wiser. Junaid do you or do you not teach at Abu Bakr Masjid in Bradford?
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Bismillah very interesting... I'm a "snake" Now.... Haven't been called that one before....

Lol Bismillah I don't teach at Abu bakr masjid, I teach at Almustafa center... :)

Bismillah any other titles you wish to confer onto me?.. I must say you do make me laugh lol!!
 
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