that is the sole reason we visit sunniport.
what use is sunniport?
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izz al-Din
Well-Known Member
We need authentic Sunni voices, like yourself, please Do not move on. Things are getting warmed up now in the world. Just show us your magnanimous side, we all are coming from different backgrounds and levels of understanding and our little knowledge has not yet caused hilm in us, and taqwa. Your wisdom is much needed. Please show sabr towards us. I guess we're all trying to learn.
Unbeknown
Senior Moderator
are you suggesting that we should not be visiting sunniport because we wouldn't be visiting a club full of strangers?
sorry, but the analogy isn't correct and so are the apparent assumptions about the "club of random guys" scenario.
you need to rethink about both and try and see in how many different ways they are dissimilar.
wa's salaam
Ghulam e Mustafa
Active Member
I learnt a lot from Sunniport.
Brother we need sunniport and some improvement should be done like question and answer by scholars and fikh q and a.
Authentic Sunni resources at one platform.
Brother we need sunniport and some improvement should be done like question and answer by scholars and fikh q and a.
Authentic Sunni resources at one platform.
sunni_porter
Well-Known Member
No. Just rethinking what is the purpose of visiting Sunniport (or any other online forum), can that purpose be fulfilled elsewhere and if not why (is it due to something lacking in our immediate localities that should be addressed), is this the wisest use of time (I have never heard a scholar recommend to spend time on online forums), etc.
sunni_porter
Well-Known Member
Take for example the recent Ijaaz Shaami thread. Would it not be better for the participants to physically gather and hold the discussion so there is accountability with no hiding behind usernames. Why have that discussion online publicly?
Or the Ubaid Khan thread. Was that discussion an efficient use of time and resources? Did it have any impact on Ubaid and the Muftis involved in the case? Then is discussing it publicly online wise?
I don't know. Don't take my posts as advocating one way or another, I'm just thinking out loud and re-evaluating for myself how online forums should be used, how much time should be spent on them, what threads to watch, what threads to participate in, when and why to post, etc.......
Unbeknown
Senior Moderator
ok.
just to clarify. It's immaterial whether it affected the muftis or obaid. It was one of the few non-partisan discussions that took place online or offline and in any language which rattled the whole drama top to down and some more and the truth was vindicated.
May be you do not know but the thread was being watched by at least some who were physically close to the fault line and it was imperative that the imaan and aqeeda of, as many sunnis as was possible, be saved.
It was no small event - two muftis, highly trusted and holding important positions - were seen siding with falsehood and using their clout and technical jargon to bamboozle common people, all for the sake of a third-rate politician. Entire principles were being played around with. It was shocking like few other things.
It was not just our right but also our duty to protest and we did the best we could.
We cannot change hearts but we can give them an opportunity to listen to a different narrative.
And, sadly, it is not something which we can hope to never see happen again. The information gleaned from that thread will, inshaAllah, help us all know the truth and side with it, whenever in the future such accidents happen again and I am sure they will.
Granted there was a deal of commotion, an overflowing of passions and some injudicious remarks had been exchanged between otherwise amiable members. But I am sure we all emerged from it, more mature and emotionally resilient than before.
Heated discussions need not always end in hate, hard feelings and acrimony and when iron dares the furnace it emerges as steel.
And Allah ta'ala knows best.
And that example provided by Unbeknown is precisely why this site is needed. To warn Sunnis of the dangers that lurk in this pitiful world we live in. And indeed they are everywhere. But the biggest danger is losing our Deen to deviants and kuffaar because in that lies our total destruction. SunniPort is literally just that. A port for Sunnis in this maelstrom we find ourselves in
May Allah grant our brother Abu Hasan abundant blessings and rewards for his work and his efforts in clarifying the positions of Ahl-as-Sunnah and exposing the deviants and may he never tire in this endeavor!
May Allah grant our brother Abu Hasan abundant blessings and rewards for his work and his efforts in clarifying the positions of Ahl-as-Sunnah and exposing the deviants and may he never tire in this endeavor!
Inwardreflection
Veteran
" Nay, that day you will be numerous but like the foam of the sea..." (Abu Dawud)
abu Hasan
Administrator
it is time to ask the question again. now the forum is 20 years old.
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i guess an upgrade is in order (today an attempt to update brought it down)
i thought of asking the same old question. should we just let it be and let it die?
or should SP continue for some more years? hence, upgrade.
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i guess an upgrade is in order (today an attempt to update brought it down)
i thought of asking the same old question. should we just let it be and let it die?
or should SP continue for some more years? hence, upgrade.
It's worth it just for your posts, Shaykh.
We look here for your guidance on issues that crop up all the time. May Allah preserve you and grant you a long life of good health and piety.
AbdalQadir
time to move along! will check pm's.
No brother keep it @abu Hasan
Hanafi Sunni
Veteran
Well this is up to you.
What was the sole purpose of creating the forum?
Is the forum steering towards the direction you created it towards?
For me personally, I feel as if it has alerted alot of people regarding modern fitna and fake shaykhs. So I would love it to stay.
Itne saal baad sabko pata chal gaya he ke mawlana abu Hasan koi aam banda nahi he, balke wo aashiq e raza he, aur buhat hi ilmi zaat he aur buhat hi haq pasand admi he.
Ulama aapki baat ko mante he. They look at it with eyes of respect. So how can you think of deactivating it when it's helped so many youngsters like myself?
Allah bless you for your service and embody within me the zeal to study Deen using you as an e.g. ameen ya rabb
Abdullah Ahmed
Veteran
As much as I have benefited from your posts and others as well, it may be time to end it. People mostly come on here to see the latest controversy, and unfortunately, it’s a springboard for some ridiculous comments from some users.
Releasing new books can be done via other platforms which have greater reach.
Apart from a few good posters, I’m not sure if it’s worth keeping the site up for an influx of new users to comment on the current gossip.
abu Hasan
Administrator
just to clarify - i didn't say we will deactivate.
it will continue obviously as long as it lasts by the Will of Allah.
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what impelled me to ask the question:
the first reason was today's unintended downtime. an update was pending for some time and i tried and failed. it is a technical issue, and the forum software is due for upgrade anyway. it is a chore - and my first response was: 'do we need it anymore? why not let it be and if it breaks, we do the last rites and let it go'. classic sysadmin instincts.
and then it became a philosophical question. as we have been hearing from here and there about how SP is not relevant anymore (actually, this was on the back of mind as a brother had conveyed it recently). do we really need to exist?
if SP vanished - would you miss it?
i have a parallel discussion with one of the brothers - who points out that we don't moderate enough.
i am of the view that we do moderate, but we should also give people the freedom to speak.
how else can we make it better? i won't promise that all suggestions will be implemented, but given that we have become old - new tricks and ideas might come from the new-gen. this is the background of my reviving this thread and the question.
abu Hasan
Administrator
the founder, abu nibras should answer this.
abu Hasan
Administrator
SP is the only place where I found good answers to the deos and a few other issues. I doubt I could have found them only on ridawi press because of the way the seo works tbh. Insha Allah, some of the beneficial content on this forum will help others the way it helped me.
I'm not sure I have much suggestion for the future of the site other than that I'm not too fond of the interface but can't put my finger on why. And not sure that kind of upgrade is even feasible, I don't know anything about maintaining websites. But it could be more friendly on the eye if I'm gonna nit pick. Might improve engagement as a result too.
I'm not sure I have much suggestion for the future of the site other than that I'm not too fond of the interface but can't put my finger on why. And not sure that kind of upgrade is even feasible, I don't know anything about maintaining websites. But it could be more friendly on the eye if I'm gonna nit pick. Might improve engagement as a result too.