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that's the opposite of me. I think if it wasn't for the couplets being pushed i wouldn't have a problem with it
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Brother Abu Hassan has already said ''...on the Divine Name al-Karim, qurtubi says in his al-asna something that is similar to the urdu lines quoted.''
So the door of the Christians is well and truly here
abu Hasan
Administrator
you are talking in riddles - i give up.
Aqib alQadri
sunniport user
it seems you are concerned about "gulow" or exaggeration. don't be apprehensive.
indeed, you cannot truly praise the Holy Prophet, as is his right. the best of scholars have already said that you can praise the Prophet as much as you can, except calling him "Allah" or "the son of Allah" (like the Christians did for Syeduna Eisa).
Ala Hazrat, the Reviver of Islam, says:-
Ay Raza khud Saahibe Quran hai muddaahe Huzoor,
Tujhse kab mumkin hai phir midhat Rasoolullah ki?
O Raza, the Owner of the Qur’an is Himself the Glorifier of the Prophet!
So how is it possible for you to rightfully praise Allah’s Apostle?
Ala Hazrat uses the word Kareem to explain the unfettered generosity of the Holy Prophet.
Mere kareem se gar qatrah kisi ne maanga,
darya baha diye haiN, durr be-baha diye haiN.
When someone has asked a drop from my generous prophet,
He has given flowing rivers, he has given priceless pearls!
Perhaps the following couplet may dispel your concerns, for he explains that Allah ta'ala is more generous than the Holy Prophet:-
Hum bhikaari woh Kareem, un ka Khudaa Un se fazoon
Aur naa kehna nahee aadat Rasoolullah ki!
We beg from him, the generous, and his God more Magnanimous than him,
And saying “No” to the beggar, is not the habit of Allah’s Apostle!
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Perhaps yoy don't know what is your question/confusion.
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Layman
apprehensive
aprɪˈhɛnsɪv/
adjective
- 1.
anxious or fearful that something bad or unpleasant will happen.
May Allaah reward you
Yes I am concerned about guluw and apprehensive (hell fire is hot). Since Shaykh Asrar accused the sufis (a part of us) of Shirk and other Ahlus Sunnah shirk reports, I think it is upon us to be balanced in our religion and take a look at our direction. I believe Ahlus Sunnah is involved in the misguidance of the awaam
Yes brother the translation of end couplet is comforting
abu Hasan
Administrator
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and I am quoting it to then show the guluw
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Layman
Dearest brother, I am asking you to reflect. You say "..no need to take these couplets in absolute meanings" then you cite from similar couplets the principle of exaggerating (lying) upon the Messenger of Allaah SallAllaahu alaihi wa alihi wa sallam.
This is proof they are designed to get victims
now, you are revealing yourself, and your agenda.
and this is your agenda.
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Through conversation we are getting to the core of the issue, yes. I'm I bad person?
I'll get other opinions
Abu Hassan, Aqib, Inwardreflection and other brothers please reply to my post number 29
where is the contradiction?
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I believe that, yes. Its no agenda. I have come to Ahlus Sunnah die hards for clarification, have I not?
i gave quote from shifa sharif that we should do mubaligha in doing ta'zim and status of rasulAllah, and presented imam buseeri's couplets that as long as you do not say what christians have said for Yisa alahi afDalus salat wat-tasleem, then you can say whatever you want. if you really reflect then this leaves only mumkinaat, so whatever is possible (and respectful) can be attributed to rasulAlah alaihi afDalus salat wat-tasleem. shaykh abdul haq muhadith dehlavi says
ہر مرتبہ کہ بود در امکان برو است ختم
ہر نعمتے کہ داشت خدا شد برو تمام
every rank which is possible has been given to him
(and) every blessing that Allah created is bestowed upon him
apprently, you don't seem to accept the opinions of early imaams, and pushing your distored and poor understanding to others. you are not imam qaDi iY'aD, nor shaykh Abdul Haq rahimahumaAllah.
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What does mubaligha mean?
Urdu website hamariweb is saying it means hyperbole
• Hyperbole
- (n.) A figure of speech in which the expression is an evident exaggeration of the meaning intended to be conveyed, or by which things are represented as much greater or less, better or worse, than they really are; a statement exaggerated fancifully, through excitement, or for effect.
Why can't we praise The Prophet SallAllahu alaihi wa alihi wa sallam in truth?
what is the truth, can you define what is his alaihi afDalus salat wat-tasleem status.
yes, you have not. you have come to reveal your disgust against al ahlussunah wal jama'ah.
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No I can't, I'll get it wrong.
note: I'm taking time out to reflect due to good post by noori. Be back later
Aqib alQadri
sunniport user
I thought my post to which you replied was the end of the confusion. nevertheless, I re-iterate here the position of the ahleSunnah:-
Whatever you say in praise of the Holy prophet, IS NOT GULUW.
he IS the best, the most exemplary, the most honorable as can be. actually much more than what we can comprehend. his status, his rank INCREASES every day. the only thing is to be wary of attributing things that are impossible, or are solely for Allah ta'ala.
who?? are they scholars? name them pls
it is ONLY the ahleSunnah who are on guidance.
and our scholars are not responsible for everything that everyone does in the name of ahleSunnah.