Atrocities in Kashmir and Delhi

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Mehmet Sekil

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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/delhi-hit-worst-violence-decades-200227085832062.html

Kashmir has been on lockdown by the hindu army for months and now the violence has reached Delhi.

Have the Ulama and followers of Imam-i Ehl-i Sünnet Ahmâd Rîza Han Hâzretlerî been vocal against such barbaric aggression either in Hind/Pakistan or in the West?

Agar firdaus bar roo-e zameen ast,
Hameen ast-o hameen ast-o hameen ast!

Amir Khusrau on Delhi and then Jahangir to describe Kashmir.
 
sub'HanAllah. this is like asking uyghur muslim ulama to comment on the plight of uyghurs. or ulama in syria to criticise the assad regime.
and oh yes, pakistan does not criticise or challenge china on uyghurs. why do the turkish ulama not speak against kemal pasha?

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ay mauj e hawadis un ko bhi, do chaar thapede halke se
kuch log abhi tak sahil se toofan ka nazaara karte hain.

(it is just a line on the state of affairs, not a dua; may Allah ta'ala keep muslims safe everywhere. nas'alu Allah al-aafiyah)

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muslims in india are persecuted and vilified by the media in the most vicious manner. relatively harmless statements by frustrated politicans are twisted and painted as calls for terrorism. the media, the judiciary, police, civil services - the entire country is against muslims.


regardless, ulama have taken a stand but that is not reported in the media. the media is sold to hindutva and they demonise muslims day in and day out. the propaganda is so vile, that goebbels could learn a thing or two.

for instance: a bjp-hindu-brahmin terrorist kapil mishra instigated hindus to "shoot the traitors". it is implicit here that the traitors are indian muslims. other terrorists from his party made incendiary statements. and there was a massacre. in one such massacre, a muslim politician tahir hussain, stranded with other muslims on his rooftop and were throwing down debris on the mob. tahir called the police and other politicians a hundred times, but they didn't respond. thereafter, a media house twisted into 'stockpiling petrol bombs' and 'weapons' etc. they simply ignored police atrocities and hindu violence, caught on tape and proudly showcased by hindus themselves. and they have arrested tahir as the main person responsible for the 'riots' or 'clashes' (the centrist choice of words).

kapil mishra, the main terrorist who was responsible for the pogrom took out a 'peace march' and called for an end to 'jehadi violence'.

and you want ulama to speak? for what? to get slaughtered?

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a similar insensitive line is taken by pakistanis - mainly on twitter. "alhamdulillah for pakistan" or "jinnah said: indian muslims will have to keep proving their loyalty to the indian state forever" etc.

indian muslims are paying the price for pakistan. those living in sindh and punjab kicked out hindus from their places during partition; and the brotherhood for bengali speaking muslims, and the muhajir who managed to arrive in pakistan is the stuff fairy tales are made of.

but which muslims paid with their blood? indian muslims, that is who. to this day, indian muslims are asked to 'go to pakistan'.

such immature and stupid statements - show me the plan for resettling muslims in india of that day? nothing. that is why the 'creation' of pakistan was insensitive and selfish. that pakistan is now a muslim majority state is a different matter.

but those people (or their forefathers) who abandoned muslims in india to fend for themselves (SHOW me the resettlement plan or provisions made for people to migrate to pakistan.) chide us for staying back in india!

hum to marne ko khaDe paas na aaya, na sahee
aakhir us shokh ki tarkash mein koyi teer bhi tha?

tum se bejaa hai mujhe apni tabahi ka gilaa
us mein kuch shayibah e khubi e taqdeer bhi tha.

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it would be amusing if it were not tragic.

pakistani-muslims chide us for staying back in india (though no provision was made to resettle them). and indian-hindus flay us for not going to pakistan. while indian-hindus would be glad to see us go to pakistan, i don't know if pakistan is ready to receive 200 million refugees.

still, for the architects of pakistan - what was the long term plan to resettle muslims spread all over the country - from himachal pradesh to kerala to tamilnadu to goa to orissa to lakshdweep to andaman to assam?
 
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http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1947/30/pdfs/ukpga_19470030_en.pdf

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http://chrehmatali.com/books/Now_or_Never.pdf

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choudhry_Rahmat_Ali

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in spite of everything, jinnah was right in his estimation of hindu majority and the direction this would lead in the future vide his 14 points.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Points_of_Jinnah

although, successive governments had somewhat resisted or successfully cloaked the outcomes predicted by jinnah's 14 points, modi has proved almost every one of them to be right.
 
This can be a golden opportunity for OIC to place gruelling economic sanctions on India for its shameful "diplomacy" where it's starting to behave in the same uncouth manner outside its borders as it does inside.

The world is not gujrat or UP... but will the OIC do it?
 
have you heard of human shields adn the israeli approach of using human shields?
any sanctions on india or action against remittance will directly affect indian muslims.

a very big majority of indian muslims go out of the country just because it is impossible to work in this land of savages.

so it is not easy and black and white.

and have you thought of what will happen to muslims living in india in return?
 
abu Hasan said:
and have you thought of what will happen to muslims living in india in return?
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for all practical intents and purposes, it's just wishful thinking. we are in this situation due to our own deeds and buying into the aasteen ke saanp congress's post independence hindu Muslim bhai bhai model; and our brethren from the Arab world competing with us in lacking in shame and gheirah; now, with valentine's day and halloween being actively promoted by Arab nations, they'd probably burn down an effigy of ravana in 2023 dussehra. it would work wonders if they merely banned and blocked all indian entertainment and bollywood, let alone place sanctions!

(Huzoor Mufti Azam Hind might not have been vocal in the sense of doing political commentary, but masha Allah as a scholar and guide, even then he instilled gheirah and shame in Muslims against hindus as best as he could with anyone who bothered to listen, imho he was the proverbial last of the mohicans who taught Muslims shame and gheirah and warned against hindus in an age when people were drunk on indian nationalism)

as for the actual what-if question,

1. it's not rainbows and unicorns for indian Muslims right now in any case,

2. the only OIC countries whose sanctions will have any meaningful impact on ground are the khaleej nations and iran, followed by turkiye, egypt and malaysia. nothing more can be realistically expected other than some elementary lip service from turkiye or malaysia - best case scenario,

3. i feel regardless if such a thing happens or not, unless the rashtra crashes and dismantles under its own gobar, we are heading down the path of the rohingya, bosnians etc. i think we will see one of the two in our lifetimes - either the dismantling of the rashtra or a seriously pitiful plight of the indian Muslim wal 3eyadhu billah. it's not about if it will happen, but when! Muslims nationwide are today in more or less the same situation as kashmir used to be in the 80's and 90's, and it's heading further downhill.

4. there's no such thing as staying 100% safe (either life or property) and trying to win a political conflict.

what's the conflict btw? defense against totally uncalled for and unprovoked acts of extreme aggression, steadily and exponentially increasing over the last 30 years.

from the gobar guy's perspective - he always had it his way post 1947 - the Muslim (speaking abstractly) was utterly powerless and sidelined, and to make it easy for them, bought into the bhai-bhai model too, there really was no practical need of the BJP or the RSS from their perspective, to maintain any sort of power or supremacy! so what exactly did the indian Muslim do to deserve this?

5. the average hindu businessman and the millionaire in the khaleej is going to be more shattered by a freezing of his bank accounts and his property confiscated than a poor Muslim rickshaw wala having his rickshaw torn apart. they are lowly cowards and don't have the heart of the Muslim
 
For Indian businessman, its whole other paradigm.
Yes, there is growing intolerance but many Indian Muslims depended on this hindu muslim bhai chara.

Economy is so bad that Muslim men here is ready to sell their goods in hindu fairs. If you show them Ala hazrat fatwa its not gonna have any affect on them.

The point is we Indian muslim businessmen will pay high price if a cold war breaks out especially without an islamic state/Caliph to migrate.
 
Mohammed Nawaz said:
The point is we Indian muslim businessmen will pay high price if a cold war breaks out especially without an islamic state/Caliph to migrate.
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my point is that that price will be paid regardless of a cold/hot war/peace with the way things are going now with these animals - it's just a matter of when it will be paid, and by whom, us or our kids.

even bollywood murtad's are being harassed and bullied - not because their love and support to the hindus is lacking, but as a message sent out to actual Muslims - "your money and fame won't win you any favors"!

Allah knows best and we beseech His Help.
 
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