SaadSohail
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You wrote "Allah’s Will is executed by His Power."
Allah's Attributes are eternal without a beginning and without an end.
To say His will is executed by His power is to say He brought His beginningless will into existence by His Power and that's rationally impossible. It's impossible because His will is eternal, beginningless, so bringing it into existence is to say It has a beginning. This is gathering of the two contradictories (Beginningless has a beginning) and that's absurd.
"So even though He has Power to enter Kuffar into Paradise, He has already Willed to use His Power to enter Kuffar into Jahannam permanently. And His Will is Eternally permanent."
Allah's will and power pertain to that which is rationally possible (like the entry of Kafir into paradise), we know this is never going to happen (i.e. contingently impossible) because Allah has willed eternally that they will stay in hell fire forever.
I wouldn't use the term "Use his power".
One must also know what we mean when we say Allah is attributed with Power and Will. This should help in sha allah.
"Deobandis try to argue (without saying it directly) that Allah has Power to contradict His Will and enter Kuffar into Paradise by purposely misapplying the term “rational possibility.”
This is indeed implied from their nonsense. To be more precise, it is implied that it is possible for Allah to change His decree or His will. This is impossible because His will, Power, Knowledge are necessary attributes of His and cannot be subject to changes.
And they might argue:
“we don’t say that ‘He has the Power to change His Will,’ but only that He has Power to directly create untrue speech that does not correspond with His Eternal Will.’”
Ok there are a few things that need to be clarified.
Allah's will is not equivalent to HIS SPEECH.
His speech is necessary attribute of HIS, and so are His Will, Power and knowledge.
His Power and will pertain to that which is intrinsically possible NOT that which is intrinsically necessary.
This would help clarify in sha Allah.
What the deobandiyah is trying to say is that His speech can contradict His knowledge.
What they forget is that Allah's knowledge agrees with REALITY and His speech pertains to that what His knowledge pertains to.
At the end of the day, His knowledge pertains to the past, present and future (What has been, what is, and what will be). As well as what could have been, what will never be, what is impossible to occur and what is necessary.
He "eternally" knows the past, present and future because HE eternally DECREED IT. There's no past, present or future, had Allah not decreed it.
Therefore to say His speech is flawed is to say His Knowledge is flawed, or that His will undergoes change or that His speech is contingent.
Deobandiyah say: He has the Power to create speech that is untrue (does not agree with reality).
When we refute them by saying His speech is eternal and necessary attribute of His, and His power and will does not pertain to it, they run like rats in a hole where they try to bring "absurd" set of arguments in their insane desire to protect their "mule" shaykhs.
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The implication of such a belief is the following statement:
If Allah had Eternally Willed to directly create untrue speech, Allah could have used His Power and directly created untrue speech which, by the way, would not have corresponded with His Eternal Will (i.e to directly create untrue Speech)”
I wouldn't say this is their argument. But what I can guarantee is it is as gibberish and nonsensical and insulting as you have written above.
(Also, Allah’s speech is eternal and not created. To say that it is possible for Allah’s speech to be a a direct creation is literally I’tizal, no? Isn't this the exact belief that Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal adamantly rejected and strove against?)
Yes. Beshak.