tariq owaisi's futile attempt to derail a thread

Tariq Owaisi said:
That's not true, the emphasis on tawheed is a Sunni teaching. Its what brings a person's Islam to completion. Its been hidden abit. Most of what you see, without emphasis on tawheed is not complete Islam.
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That is the most silly response one can expect, no other words to describe it.

So does tawheed brings ones Islam 'into completion' or does it 'define' a person as a Muslim? And how was it a bit 'hidden'? Who according to you was responsible in hiding it? I am getting a massive 'I'm a Wahabi' stench coming out of you. This is their belief that for several hundred years Muslims were doing 'shirk' and then Ibn Abdul Wahabi Najdi freed his followers from it. And then Mr T Owaisi comes on this forum stating that the concept of tawheed was hidden a bit! See the similarity?

I don't expect you to come up with any explanation as you haven't in any of your earlier posts. I will leave the more patient brothers to respond to you. But I do look forward to you enlightening everyone when you do finally decide to come up with some explanations!
 
Abdullah Ahmed said:
You tend to make a lot of claims. And then when pressed for more information/evidence, you divert attention elsewhere.

If you are truly confused and sincerely seeking guidance, then STOP making your own claims if you yourself are unsure.

If you are 100% certain, then back the claim up with actual evidence.

If you have a question, explicitly state the question; dont just quote a whole paragrah and say "i dont understand this," "i dont like this," "this makes me uncomfortable," without stating your reason why. This is very childish. ("mommy i no wanna eat this broccoli, i no like it")



Now the question to you is:

Do YOU believe that the Prophet (Salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam) was granted the treasures of the Heavens and Earth?

If you say "no," then you must explain why and then back it up with evidence.

If you say "yes, but i dont like/am uncomfortable with the explanation given." Then you must clarify why you feel that way AND acknowledge that it COULD possibly be due to your: lack of intellect/understanding; weakness of iman; and or bad company.
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I only asked what desi Sunni statements were in this regard, and I was dragged into other issues, so I don't feel I need to do anything.
 
"... upon them is the the La'nat of Allah and the angels and all mankind."

Likewise numerous hadith you will find the words "La'ana Rasoolullah.."
 
YaMustafa said:
"... upon them is the the La'nat of Allah and the angels and all mankind."

Likewise numerous hadith you will find the words "La'ana Rasoolullah.."
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As you know I've been called a troll, idiot, dot and unintelligent, don't remember moron but it's probably in there (I'm confused on these terms because they are used daily so I don't know if they mean a lot either). No surprise if I ask for an explanation - so if I may oh brother ask how is your post relevant? I'm not saying it's not relevant I appreciate the post don't get me wrong, but what is your explanation?
 
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Example:"and prevent whomever from whatever he so wishes"


La'ana - does it qualify as a 'prevent whomever and from whatever' or is a proof in that equation somewhere?
 
abu Hasan said:
the stars.
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I've read back through the thread and can not see a justification for you to say I'm being incoherent.
At one point I was asked about which part i did not agree with and I said the whole tract needs explanation. The reason for this were many including to encourage good in you, ie not to attack my lack of anything, just explain. Like I tried to explain earlier it's not good to attack people because of these problematic texts. You said they were not problematic so they should be easy to explain (logic withstanding)
 
Tariq Owaisi said:
I am very open minded or try to be but I don't know what you mean by balance it. I am trying to understand your point of view so the explanation should ideally come from you.
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Asking brother Abu Hasan's help to explain a text that according to you is "ambiguous" is definitely NOT going to help you increase your tawheed, after all isn't that your primary criteria for learning based on your previously quoted post? I thought best to protect your tawheed from decreasing as according to your understanding of surah Fatiha you perhaps need to only rely on Allah's help rather than someone else's!

Just stating the obvious solely in the interests of saving whatever tawheed you currently have left. No ill intentions....
 
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