The Seige of Mt. Twitter
abu Hasan
Administrator
for what
This was tweeted but then deleted after a while; I cannot tell whether this person was genuinely asking or whether he was trying to cause discord.
Ali_Bash
sunniport user
Bahar e-shariat by Mawlana Mufti Muhammad Amjad ʿAlī Azami a great work in Ḥanafī fiqh
Mālik al-ʿulamā' Zafar al-Din Bihari, Jāmiʿ al-Radawi, a great work in ḥadīth and Ḥanafī evidences.
The target audience of the Barelvi ʿulamā' is not the arabs, it is the people of the sub-continent. The only reason the dev authored these commentaries in arabic were in response to the the commentaries by Azimabadi and Mubarakfuri on the two sunans.Why would Arab ʿulamā' need to read to the commentaries of the deobandi 'scholars' when they have the likes of Ibn Ḥajar, al-Nawawī, al-Qastallani, al-Ayni in their commentaries on ḥadīth, or Mulla ʿAlī al-Qari in his commentary on Mishkāẗ. Ibn Raslan, al-Ayni on commentaries of Abū Dāwūd.
Mālik al-ʿulamā' Zafar al-Din Bihari, Jāmiʿ al-Radawi, a great work in ḥadīth and Ḥanafī evidences.
The target audience of the Barelvi ʿulamā' is not the arabs, it is the people of the sub-continent. The only reason the dev authored these commentaries in arabic were in response to the the commentaries by Azimabadi and Mubarakfuri on the two sunans.Why would Arab ʿulamā' need to read to the commentaries of the deobandi 'scholars' when they have the likes of Ibn Ḥajar, al-Nawawī, al-Qastallani, al-Ayni in their commentaries on ḥadīth, or Mulla ʿAlī al-Qari in his commentary on Mishkāẗ. Ibn Raslan, al-Ayni on commentaries of Abū Dāwūd.
AlialHanafi
sunniport user
Deo slanderers and liars are becoming really active again on Twitter against Sunnis. There are a couple brothers responding but some of the Deo propaganda requires a harsher response if somebody could take a look.
Unfortunatelt big “neutral” accounts are siding with Deos such as this theology account which is quite big on Telegram
Unfortunatelt big “neutral” accounts are siding with Deos such as this theology account which is quite big on Telegram
AlialHanafi
sunniport user
Furthermore
AlialHanafi
sunniport user
This zindiq has also decided to call out Abu Hasan and naming these forums
abu Hasan
Administrator
so these are abominations which have grown feeding upon khalid mahmud's filth - that liar who deserved la'anat - who would shamelessly lie and had all the qualities of being a spokesman in israeli terrorist forces. khalid - alayhi ma alayhi - had the same energy, now he is dead and rotted away.
nas'alu Allah al-aafiyah.
--
someone tell this devbandi pipsqueak to debunk the table. let him disprove this table is incorrect, false or factually incorrect instead of crowing like a monkey.
nas'alu Allah al-aafiyah.
--
someone tell this devbandi pipsqueak to debunk the table. let him disprove this table is incorrect, false or factually incorrect instead of crowing like a monkey.
https://x.com/TheUsuli/status/1738626446539493703
1. Neo-deobandis who attended a western deoband school never saw how sunnis saw them in the 1970s and 1990s, or how their amirs and imams promoted their doctrine to laypeople.
These days, all they stand for is a rosy version of their deobandi doctrine that they picked up from their shyakh.
2. Deos, like rawafidhs, are well-known for their taqiya. Deoband theology, like wahabi theology, is inconsistent. It varies according to geographical location. As a result, it is easier for them to abandon particular ideas when it becomes more difficult to be acknowledged in ahle sunnah wa jamaat.
We call them Tonda, which means "lizard." They are well-known for changing color based on the situation and time.
3. Why is it that no one discusses how their tableegh jamaat persuaded jahil layman, causing uproar in families and society, and ushering in a new level of fitna in Sunni communities?
Instead of addressing laymen's incorrect bidas, these deobandis made them detest from Ahle Sunnah wa Jamaat and causing him to transgress.
Every unlearned, jahil, corrupted peer was referred to as barelvi. How they instilled hatred in Sunni people. While preaching the najdi concept of Islam through hanafi jurisprudence.
4. These neo-Deobandis lack comprehension; their shyakh were only human, and they committed grave mistakes in doctrine.
This man is asking us to justify their master rather than correcting them. Why stand up for Namus e Rishalat when you can let your master off the hook?
However, they are free to discredit and vilify Barelvi ahle Sunnah scholars. With lies, most of the time.
1. Neo-deobandis who attended a western deoband school never saw how sunnis saw them in the 1970s and 1990s, or how their amirs and imams promoted their doctrine to laypeople.
These days, all they stand for is a rosy version of their deobandi doctrine that they picked up from their shyakh.
2. Deos, like rawafidhs, are well-known for their taqiya. Deoband theology, like wahabi theology, is inconsistent. It varies according to geographical location. As a result, it is easier for them to abandon particular ideas when it becomes more difficult to be acknowledged in ahle sunnah wa jamaat.
We call them Tonda, which means "lizard." They are well-known for changing color based on the situation and time.
3. Why is it that no one discusses how their tableegh jamaat persuaded jahil layman, causing uproar in families and society, and ushering in a new level of fitna in Sunni communities?
Instead of addressing laymen's incorrect bidas, these deobandis made them detest from Ahle Sunnah wa Jamaat and causing him to transgress.
Every unlearned, jahil, corrupted peer was referred to as barelvi. How they instilled hatred in Sunni people. While preaching the najdi concept of Islam through hanafi jurisprudence.
4. These neo-Deobandis lack comprehension; their shyakh were only human, and they committed grave mistakes in doctrine.
This man is asking us to justify their master rather than correcting them. Why stand up for Namus e Rishalat when you can let your master off the hook?
However, they are free to discredit and vilify Barelvi ahle Sunnah scholars. With lies, most of the time.
Questioner: Don’t you think it’s better to say such things in private? (Istigatha)
Hasan Spiker says
https://x.com/RealHasanSpiker/status/1750917107213062150
Hasan Spiker says
https://x.com/RealHasanSpiker/status/1750917107213062150
Q: Why not take a more conciliatory approach, and pretend tawassul is ḥarām, or at least that it is better for the sake of waraʿ to avoid it?
A: The conciliatory approach on such issues has led to the dominance of bāṭil, and the justification for casting aspersions on the majority of our umma for the majority of its history. A few aqwāl shādhdha do not constitute sufficient grounds to leave an act which the vast majority of ʿulamāʾ have historically considered sound. The conciliatory approach is a wonderful thing, when it is conciliation between sound differences of opinion. Otherwise, it ultimately leads to the disfigurement of our pure dīn and the creation of a false picture of the dīn where almost everything becomes a legitimate target for suspicion and bidʿa. Overwhelming evidence shows that this way of paranoia and suspicion was not the way of the Prophet ﷺ, nor of the ṣaḥāba, and thus itself constitutes amongst the most egregious of forms of bidʿa.
Now, let me be reconciliatory: Many of those who describe themselves as Salafis are sincere Muslims who love the glorious Qur'an and Sunna as we do. May Allah help you to realize the immense harm that is caused by casting aspersions on the whole history of our umma by insinuating that the vast majority of Muslims were misled for the vast majority of our history, and that only an 18th century reformist movement set us on our feet again. The sheer absurdity of that claim should be self-evident to anyone who reflects on
خيرُ القرونِ قرْني, ثمَّ الَّذين يلونَهم, ثمَّ الَّذين يلونَهم
Another age of the Salaf suddenly reappears after over a millennium of shirk and decline?
This is my final word on the topic. For more, please read al-Sayyid al-ʿAlawī al-Mālikī's مفاهيم يجب ان تصحح with an open mind and heart, and please desist from casting aspersions on our Umma.
athabat.net/static/uploads…مفاهيم%20يجب%20أن%20تص%26%23%286%29.pdf
Ali_Bash
sunniport user
They dont need to write books in arabic. That is not their target audience. It is like saying why dont the sunni scholars in the arab world write a book in urdu. ʿala hadhrats fatawa is testament to how great of a scholar he is.
If this is criticism from the dev side then the only reason their scholars wrote work in arabic was in refutation of Mubarakfuri and Azimabadi.
Even so he wrote al-Dawla tul-Makkiyah at the request of the Arab Scholars.
Allāh knows best
This Telegram account has been on a heavy anti-Barelwi tirade recently.
I already responded. He was proven wrong. I offered to send him the full PDF but he wasn't willing to read it.
I showed him clearly the question which mentions the statement of Barahin e Qatiah and then I showed him Shaykh Attar mentioning the statement himself. I showed him I didn't mistranslate as I have the full fatwa himself and I responded to his claim of his signature in Al Muhannad.
I showed him clearly the question which mentions the statement of Barahin e Qatiah and then I showed him Shaykh Attar mentioning the statement himself. I showed him I didn't mistranslate as I have the full fatwa himself and I responded to his claim of his signature in Al Muhannad.
Yes, they seem to have Deo backgrounds and some brothers have described them as Awnists. This channel is comprised of I think three members. Recently they have tried to portray Alahazrat as a takfiri.