pakistani situation & imran khan

Noori said:
agent of gharb and qadiyanies
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didn't nawaz sharif too try to remove some section on some govt application form that would identify qadianis, and then he was caught out?

i heard Liaqat Ali Khan was also assassinated because of/thru qadiani connections coz he was gonna declare them kafirs; if he wasn't assassinated, their declaration as kafirs would have been sooner than 1974

and then again i heard, the 1974 amendment was not what it was supposed to be in entirety, if the ulama and diligent Muslims would have had their way, they would have gotten ismailis too listed under the same amendment

anyway, as for this mardood niyazi, it's enough warning that he has the likes of tahir on his side and takes advice from mark hanson. tahir too hasn't uttered a squeak against qadianis since he migrated to canada
 
I have also heard the same. Imran Niazi is not innocent guy. He is just fooling the public and youth.
He is a qadiani jewish agent. Every enemy of Pakistan and Pakistan army is supporting Imran Khan now. But he will be crushed if he dont do Touba.
His buddy General Qamar Javed Bajwas father in law is also a qadiani.
It is a deliberate attack on Pakistani establishment and Pakistan army General Hafiz Syed Asim Munir by qadiani lobby, gohar shahi fitna and mirza engineer fitna.
 
Noori said:
he is another puppet/agent of agencies, and there are many controversies associated with him in the past including supporting a claimant of prophethood.
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If you think he is a puppet of security agency of Pakistan. Than every loyal Pakistani muslim is a puppet of security agencies of Pakistan

 
you need to read my post again, I said there are controversies regarding his aqidah in the past, i am not sure of their veracity. however, his being an agent of agencies is very evident from his past activities and from the stances he takes, his videos are enough proof of this.

the last part of your statement is a bit funny, I am a loyal Pakistani, and the majority of the general public is loyal to the country but we/they are not puppets of the agencies.

there are four animals in pakistan destroying the country, (i) army and agencies (the top dogs), (ii) politicians, (iii) judges, and (iv) anchor persons of political talk shows.
 
Noori said:
(i) army and agencies (the top dogs)
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when you say agencies, are you referring to foreign or local? it's worse if (i'm assuming there are still quite a few) army elements are working for foreign intelligences. even further worse off if some of them are qadianis or their sympathizers as was the case sometime in the past.
 
"(the top dogs)" explains who I meant, there are liberals who want freedom like europe, qadiyani supporters, and after afghan war and ziaulhaq's dictatorship there are a good number of deobandi and wahabi supporters.

Foreign agencies too have a great role in the bad economic and political situations in pakistan, they are obvious enemies and working on their national interest and agenda, but pakistan is being destroyed from within
 
Noori said:
you need to read my post again, I said there are controversies regarding his aqidah in the past, i am not sure of their veracity. however, his being an agent of agencies is very evident from his past activities and from the stances he takes, his videos are enough proof of this.

the last part of your statement is a bit funny, I am a loyal Pakistani, and the majority of the general public is loyal to the country but we/they are not puppets of the agencies.

there are four animals in pakistan destroying the country, (i) army and agencies (the top dogs), (ii) politicians, (iii) judges, and (iv) anchor persons of political talk shows.
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Noori said:
he is another puppet/agent of agencies, and there are many controversies associated with him in the past including supporting a claimant of prophethood.
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If you think he is a puppet of security agency of Pakistan. Than every loyal Pakistani muslim is a puppet of security agencies of Pakistan


Nothing wrong working for Isi. Its a blessing to work for your country. Alhamdolillah
 
Imran Khan former PM of Pakistan

I would like to know what respected members of the forum think about Imran Khan as a former leader of Pakistan. Was he good for the country and Muslims in general or did he cause more harm than good? Whilst IK showed himself to be very respectful at Mezars and during his Hazri in the Blessed Lands he made several major religious errors. Please share your thoughts, any videos speeches etc that would show definitively his standing on the following issues.


I can recall an interview in the run up to the election in which he became PM, he stated that he believed qadianis are not kafir, this is the translation of how I remember his words; "to believe that another Prophet can come after Prophet Muhammad SallAllahu alayhi wa sallam is wrong - but to say kafir to anyone who does not believe in this, I don't agree with this." Some of his supporters claimed that we should not believe this as the video could be doctored/ unauthentic, edited etc. I personally seen this video it was definitely him and to the best of my knowledge it was his own voice.


He used very derogatory language towards RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam and the Sahaba whilst mentioning Uhud Jang, he himself was then called zaleel e Azam by Ulama when they refuted him.


IK was at the helm when Asia mal'una was acquitted and released after being found guilty of blasphemy and sentenced to death on more than one occasion (three times?). The way I see it IK party is no better than nawaz Sharif party in the sense that nawaz and co sentenced Ghazi Mumtaz Qadri to death and executed him and IK released asia. That is if nawaz and ik were responsible otherwise they would both be free of these charges. Allah Ta'ala knows best.


Does anyone know what the stance of ik was in regard to Ghazi Mumtaz Qadri. Was any public statement made in this regard? Was he pro anti or silent, my hunch is that he was either silent or against in some way shape or form.


Apart from some of the major issues mentioned here he also brought other problems like when ik opened up the route for Sikhs to a temple in Pakistan, praised ataturk, had women dancing to music in his jalse and not to forget his worst crime: he was at the helm when police/ army? Raided masajid arrested many Ulama and Sadaat and people from the awam - they made Shahid Muslims inside a masjid in the month of Ramadan. Was he responsible for this or did he remain silent whilst the powers that be carried out this atrocity, either way where does it leave him and his blind follower supporters who see nothing wrong with him?


He made a good speech at the UN? Re Islamophobia but I personally think this was just lip service to secure support from the masses. If however I'm wrong about everything and he is genuine with good intentions then I have to say that as a Muslim leader he is very very ignorant about even the basics of Islam.


Edit: I wrote this to create a new thread before I found this one.


Please add to the thread if it can be said either way regarding any of the questions raised here.
 
he is a pro qadyani. qadyanies have never seen the best of their freedom in any other regime than his, now qadiyanes are crying. asim munir is not very different from previous chiefs, however, now qadiyanies do not have the same freedom as they were enjoying in IK, faiz, and bajwah's time. you can check their websites.

IK always tried to push qadiyani's agenda, he took the credit of releasing asiyah masih with full protocol in front of the western media. he made a nice speech in the UN and after that and probably within a few day a qadyani was appointed as a secretary to the permanent correspondent.

i don't do takfir but it is very difficult to believe if he really is a muslim.
 
Apparently IK has been mistreated/ beaten(?). A video I seen couple of days ago claims that he may lose his sight in the left eye. Shaykh Asrar also said that presently IK and his supporters are victims of democratic tyranny.

leaving differences aside I don't agree with what they are doing with him but I guess that's Pak politics for you, after all he done what he done as well?!
 
but we can also call it makafaat e amal, he is reaping what he sowed, this is the wrath of Allah Ta'ala upon them regardless if those who are doing this to him are right or wrong, that is their action, but IK is reaping his own fruits.
 
Noori said:
he is a pro qadyani
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https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1FYrWmFSK2/?mibextid=wwXIfr

came across this old clip. Although this one is shorter than the one I heard at the time

my understanding is that Imran khan said (translated in my own words) 'yes it is important to believe RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam is the final messenger, however to say that for the one who doesn't believe this is not a Muslim .... I do not believe this/ meN is ko nahiN manta' - this is my understanding of what was said/ implied in full.

1. Have I misunderstood what he is saying here?
2. As it is necessary to consider qadianis as Kafir, has Imran khan committed kufr and/or has he become a kafir?
 
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This clip is so blatantly edited and devoid if context that you can recognise it immediately. The fuller clip is available on YouTube and he says qadianis are kuffar
 
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