chisti-raza
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Response to Shaykh Asrar Rashid on Hadra in the Hanafi Madhab
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Any thoughts on this?
lol, i had forgotten who this individual was. the hadra thing is not that much of an issue fiqh-wise (where he's just trying to portray himself as an intellectual Hanafi) as the last 2 or 3 minutes that he lays some bizarre allegations against Asrar Rashid. if anyone has any background info, please advise.
i can provide some bg info. Shaykh Nooruddeen is taking a position against what he terms as extreme sectarianism with barelwis and sufis. In doing so he has gotten into a spat with Shaykh Asrar's student over the chishti rasoolAllah statement. Now this, seems as if Shaykh Asrar is calling out his position on the Hadra (although to me Shaykh Asrar's position seems unclear).
all in all, don't waste your time with it, lol. typical online refutation stuff.
all in all, don't waste your time with it, lol. typical online refutation stuff.
Bey-Noor is similar to zameel dev. Utterly shameless. Sunnis have repeatedly been telling him we reject Chishti RasulAllah but he keeps repeating the same accusation. That shows he's disingenuous and insincere.
Shaykh Asrar has upcoming debates with qadiyanis and salafis and shouldn't waste time on nobodies.
Shaykh Asrar has upcoming debates with qadiyanis and salafis and shouldn't waste time on nobodies.
I thought it's about a different issue and some guy who claims to be a student of Asrar Rashid defending a different statement attributed to imam Bayazeed:
I'm not sure why he can't just call asrar and ask him if this guy really is his student or not and whether he agrees with his stance and go from there. But I would also think that if AR has enough time to make videos about the hanafi stance regarding the hadra, he can respond on this issue too
He also seems like he wants to make this into a 'both sides' issue i.e claim that barelwis are equally likely to commit kufr as compared to deos but his attitude falls flat on his face considering AR and his students don't even identify as barelwi for one thing so their stance on a particular issue can't be used to paint the entire maslak.
Secondly, maybe he should take note of how the biggest deos in the world today have been falling over backwards to defend the disbelief of tariq masood before he tries to paint us with the same brush
I'm not sure why he can't just call asrar and ask him if this guy really is his student or not and whether he agrees with his stance and go from there. But I would also think that if AR has enough time to make videos about the hanafi stance regarding the hadra, he can respond on this issue too
He also seems like he wants to make this into a 'both sides' issue i.e claim that barelwis are equally likely to commit kufr as compared to deos but his attitude falls flat on his face considering AR and his students don't even identify as barelwi for one thing so their stance on a particular issue can't be used to paint the entire maslak.
Secondly, maybe he should take note of how the biggest deos in the world today have been falling over backwards to defend the disbelief of tariq masood before he tries to paint us with the same brush
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Sh Asrar had made a bit of a name for himself amongst non sunnis as a non barelwi sunni. You might be surprised at how many non sunnis watch his content and are influenced by it.
Sh Nurudin is quickly realising why our scholars didn't mix with every group. His recent live discussion with an anti mawlid 'esteemed guest' was a difficult watch. So far he hasn't got either side to move a hair's breadth I'd say though I don't doubt his sincerity.
HajiNaushah
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Asrar Sahib has time to attend and be hosted by Ahsan in Bradford on a monthly basis.
Why is Ahsan sat on the Minbar and higher than Asrar Sahib whilst he is lecturing?
HajiNaushah
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Asrar Sahib will be exploring Heaven coinciding with Ahsan inaugurating the community fridge
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Troll alert.
ramiz.noorie
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No he is not a troll, he is pointing out double standards, and certainly you don't like him to point this out for whatever reasons and try to hide it.
Asrar rashid is good speaker that doesn't necessarily absolve him of many of his controversies from ian dallas murabitun to...
Asrar rashid is good speaker that doesn't necessarily absolve him of many of his controversies from ian dallas murabitun to...
I have mentioned this in private to other brothers.
is Asrar Rashid aware of this utterly disingenuous and borderline or outright kufr comment of their shaykh, my online namesake Abdalqadir, as-sufi?
https://shaykhabdalqadir.com/the-end-of-an-age/
denying the niqab is denying a shi3ar of Islam and revolting against the ijma3 of the ummah, something that may warrant takfeer from the fuqaha. it is not "utterly against the command of the Quran and Sunnah" rather proven from them. that it's not fard is another matter, but he/his mureeds simply don't have the license to insult sha3airil Islam if they're not fard.
To be fair to him, per Wikipedia, apparently he issued a fatwa against that dirty dog then pope benedict for his 2006 lecture speaking ill about the Prophet sal Allahu 3alaihi wa sallam. On that note, he did a profoundly better job than those 38 clowns who wrote a pathetic, apology-drenched open letter to benedict, most of them now proudly serving various different kafir interests, and some like mark hanson even asking the Muslims of Gaza to "suffer in silence" and shamelessly addressing the Al-Aqsa as "temple mount".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdalqadir_as-Sufi
He seems to have retracted on his call for the gold dinar and the silver dirham, according to wiki, something I just read now.
I can generously accept perhaps he went through a roller coaster ride in his beliefs and convictions, but nonetheless brother Asrar should clarify his position on that severely infamous comment of the murabitun (still on their website) re the niqab.
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HajiNaushah
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Does Asrar Sahib accept Ahsan as a valid Pir?
That's well known and I alluded to it. It's not fard 3ayn on all women all times.
But it IS from Sunnah and shi3ar of Islam and not to be mocked and made fun of or obscene comments like "hinduisation of women". It is fard according to many fuqaha, if not in all, in many situations.
Anyone who says it has no precedent in Islam or nothing to do with Quran or Sunnah, needs to go back to school at best, in worst case of riddah due to mocking deen, re-state the shahadah and become Muslim again. (not a dig at Asrar Rashid. That just seemed like an old video addressing the qn if niqab is mandatory or not.)
Tsfsir Ibn Kathir under Surah Ahzab, verse 59:
قَالَ عَلِيُّ بْنُ أَبِي طَلْحَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ: أَمَرَ اللَّهُ نِسَاءَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ(٢) إذا خرجن من بيوتهن في حَاجَةٍ أَنْ يُغَطِّينَ وُجُوهَهُنَّ مِنْ فَوْقِ رُؤُوسِهِنَّ بِالْجَلَابِيبِ، وَيُبْدِينَ عَيْنًا وَاحِدَةً.
وَقَالَ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سِيرِينَ: سَأَلْتُ عَبيدةَ السَّلْمَانِيَّ عَنْ قَوْلِ اللَّهِ تَعَالَى: ﴿يُدْنِينَ عَلَيْهِنَّ مِنْ جَلابِيبِهِنَّ﴾ ، فَغَطَّى وَجْهَهُ وَرَأْسَهُ وَأَبْرَزَ عَيْنَهُ الْيُسْرَى.
وَقَالَ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سِيرِينَ: سَأَلْتُ عَبيدةَ السَّلْمَانِيَّ عَنْ قَوْلِ اللَّهِ تَعَالَى: ﴿يُدْنِينَ عَلَيْهِنَّ مِنْ جَلابِيبِهِنَّ﴾ ، فَغَطَّى وَجْهَهُ وَرَأْسَهُ وَأَبْرَزَ عَيْنَهُ الْيُسْرَى.
https://tafsir.app/ibn-katheer/33/59
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It was so annoying to see this animal's video suggested by youtube at the end of the Asrar video - https://you tu.be/2fTxP72Dsbw?si=eJQJbo39BR1bOH1M
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