Shaykh Asrar refutes Chuff Chuff

in my opinion, he shouldn't call chuff-chuff and yunus gobar types for debates and challenges and all. i may be wrong, but talking to trash like this is below his stature. he should just point out such dajjals for the rotten, senseless shayateen they are and that's it - just mention for that shaytan to cure all the cancer patients in birmingham is enough. no need for challenging him to cross paths and debate.

yunus gobar - what's his worth in knowledge or common sense or anything? he's more useless and hopeless than a retarded heroine addict.

i think he should only engage with "mainstream" heretics like senior wahabis, shias, ismailis etc., not clown-heretics like abu layth, chuff chuff, yunus gobar etc.
 
Shaykh Asrar challenges those types 1 in the sense of a mubahala and not ilmi munazara 2 this is done to undermine them in public. One local guy became a yunus gohar follower now and believes riaz is god!
 
He mentions to the Turks re people calling peers to do dua and all. Turks too have people who charge to read the Fatihah or Yaseen at graveyards, and many such jahil peers who are called to do duas and all. A lot of Turks can't read the Quran from Arabic script, but read some surahs from transliterated latin script. They're the first ones to pay people to read Quran and duas from Arabic script.

Even Arabs have jahil peers who narrate false dreams to people that Prophet 3alaihis salam asked them to solicit such and such from mureeds. In fact even though Habibs Ali Jifry and Umar bin Hafeez have so far not narrated such dreams and kashfs, there are people who out of their huzn az-zann believe that they're acting on some magnificent secret instructions from higher authorities and playing some sort of 5D chess with the enemies of Islam and christians - when they can't explain their unparalleled coziness with the pope, christians, hanson, husein nasr et al and evil politicians working against Islam.

Desis being insecure due to heavy hindu influence on their culture and family life might have more of it, or we might see it more being from the culture, but peeri is big business everwhere.
 
Has anyone got any links of video clips of Barelvi Ulema refuting him by name? I want to share it

جزاك الله خيرا

I think Qari Tayyab Naqshbandi had one
 
Tbh, I thought this guy was already refuted by that journalist and forgotten. At this point, everyone in the world for the most part knows he's a fraud. Respectfully, why is Shaykh Asrar still going on about him? If there are other Pirs who are in the "same business" in Birmingham, why isn't he calling them out by name too?

These Pirs operate like a mafia so to me it seems like Chuff Chuff is now considered "small fish" or an easy scapegoat. I respect Shaykh Asrar's concern but when are we going to move on from this? Jahil Pirs have been around for centuries and our Ulema have always refuted them, but the ignorant public still ended up following them.

However, events like the one yesterday are exactly what we need maa shaa Allah. Educate the public en masse so they don't fall for jahil Pirs.
 
Aqdas said:
Shaykh Asrar arrived at Chuff event to have dialogue but they didn't allow him.

https://www.youtube.com/live/gAp_VRsshHc?si=QX4A4ZFh8xIz8UPu
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They should all get PhD's in strawmanning!

Did chuff chuff come to UK to debate qadianis or assert khatme nubuwwat aqidah?

Is Asrar Rashid a denier of khatme nubuwwat wal 3eyadhu billah?

Why shouting the khatme nubuwwat slogan at the time Asrar Rashid wants to talk to him, or at any time during his visit unless his core mission for the visit is nothing but safeguarding the aqidah?

It's clear he's a filthy dajjal and a munafiq abusing the blessed aqidah for his nefarious purposes.

{ إِذَا جَاۤءَكَ ٱلۡمُنَـٰفِقُونَ قَالُوا۟ نَشۡهَدُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُ ٱللَّهِۗ وَٱللَّهُ یَعۡلَمُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُهُۥ وَٱللَّهُ یَشۡهَدُ إِنَّ ٱلۡمُنَـٰفِقِینَ لَكَـٰذِبُونَ }
[Surah Al-Munāfiqūn: 1]
 
AbdalQadir said:
I thought I saw that pathetic non-wali tasleem sabri there.

In the youtube video, dunno if some guy looking like hasnain shah was there.
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Syed Muzammil Hussain Jamati was present at the gathering, where he extolled Haq Badshah. Syed Muzammil has still not retracted the slanderous comments he made against Sayyiduna Mu‘awiya at a gathering years ago. Despite being told by Syed Irfani Miya to retract those remarks during that gathering, Syed Muzammil refused, after which Syed Irfani left the gathering.

The singer Qari Shahid Mehmood—who has been robbing the Pakistani, Indian and Kashmiri diaspora in the UK for decades—was also present. Tasleem Sabri, another optimist from Pakistan, was in attendance as well. Qari Shahid’s antics from a previous gathering:


Syed Iqrar ul Hassan’s previous visit:

 
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Sunni By Nature said:
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Ok, so now he's championing the khatme nubuwwat cause! Great

Let's leave aside the rafidi and tafdili overtures for a while -

How many qadianis has he tackled during his visit or scheduled to?
How many of the gobar shahi lot?
How many Christians, jews, atheists and european islamophobes? (Can he converse in the queen's English? French? Dutch? Spanish? German? Italian?)

Or is he just defending khatme nubuwwat in a gathering of desis who do not deny it in the first place?
 

This is fine. But Chuff isn't the only problem. What about Tahir ul, Irfan Shah et al?

Chuff is being named. Name Tahir ul and Irfan Shah too and call out those who have supported them.
 
Whilst I do like the like idea of chasing chuff out of Birmingham... I'm not too sure about the idea of randomly rocking up to confront someone uninvited. Surely that just sets bad precedents for others to try and heckle us during urs gatherings, for example, because they're trying to 'confront' us on our 'bidah'.

On the other hand, it was also good 'PR' which we mentioned the need of on other threads.
 
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