Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuhu,
Recently I have been looking into some statements of Shaikh Ibn Kathir [RH] in his famous Tafsir.
During this process I stumbled on the following statement quoted from Hafidh Ibn Hajar [RH] on-line :
روى الحافظ ابن حجر العسقلاني في ترجمة ابراهيم نجل ابن القيم الجوزية رحمه الله كما جاء في كتابه الدرر الكامنة ما نصه :
ابراهيم بن محمد بن أبي بكر بن أيوب بن قيم الجوزية ... تقدم وأفتى ودرس , وذكره الذهبي في المعجم المختص فقال : تفقه بأبيه وشارك في العربية وسمع وقرأ واشتغل بالعلم ..ومن نوادره أنه وقع بينه وبين عماد الدين ابن كثير منازعة في تدريس الناس فقال له ابن كثير : أنت تكرهني لأنني أشعري . فقال له : لو كان من رأسك الى قدمك شعر ما صدقك الناس في قولك أنك أشعري وشيخك ابن تيمية !! )) انتهى كلام الحافظ ابن حجر
ذكر في الدرر الكامنة للحافظ ابن حجر
Basically, Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani [RH] is apparently reporting in ad-durar al-kamina chapter 1 page 65 a short discussion between Ibn Kathir and the son of Ibn Al-Qayyim Al-Jawziyya.
Ibn Kathir said to him: “You do not like me because I am an ash' ari”.
The son of Ibn Al-Qayyim replied:
“Even if you had hair from head to feet, people would not believe that you are ash' ari as your sheikh is Ibn Taymiyya!!”
[end quote]
Another interesting snippet of information from the same link provided above where I found the above quote is that apparently Imam al-Subki [RH] mentions in “Tabaqat ash-shafi' iyya” volume 10 page 398 that a condition to teach at the house of hadith “Al-Ashrafiyya” was to be ash' ari in 'aqida and that apparently Imam Ibn Kathir occupied the post of professor at this house of Hadith in the month of Moharam in the year 772H.
Again it would be nice if someone with the original book could confirm the above and post the full text as I have not personally checked the original sources cited.
Anyway, you can draw from the above what conclusions you will.
Sticking with the topic of this thread I hope to post some interesting quotes from Ibn Kathir's tafsir soon, inshaAllah, in this thread.
If anyone notices any problems in the translations then please do inform me so that I can rectify the error.
Disclaimer: The views cited are those of the author - I do not necessarily endorse nor disagree with his views.
Recently I have been looking into some statements of Shaikh Ibn Kathir [RH] in his famous Tafsir.
During this process I stumbled on the following statement quoted from Hafidh Ibn Hajar [RH] on-line :
روى الحافظ ابن حجر العسقلاني في ترجمة ابراهيم نجل ابن القيم الجوزية رحمه الله كما جاء في كتابه الدرر الكامنة ما نصه :
ابراهيم بن محمد بن أبي بكر بن أيوب بن قيم الجوزية ... تقدم وأفتى ودرس , وذكره الذهبي في المعجم المختص فقال : تفقه بأبيه وشارك في العربية وسمع وقرأ واشتغل بالعلم ..ومن نوادره أنه وقع بينه وبين عماد الدين ابن كثير منازعة في تدريس الناس فقال له ابن كثير : أنت تكرهني لأنني أشعري . فقال له : لو كان من رأسك الى قدمك شعر ما صدقك الناس في قولك أنك أشعري وشيخك ابن تيمية !! )) انتهى كلام الحافظ ابن حجر
ذكر في الدرر الكامنة للحافظ ابن حجر
Basically, Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani [RH] is apparently reporting in ad-durar al-kamina chapter 1 page 65 a short discussion between Ibn Kathir and the son of Ibn Al-Qayyim Al-Jawziyya.
Ibn Kathir said to him: “You do not like me because I am an ash' ari”.
The son of Ibn Al-Qayyim replied:
“Even if you had hair from head to feet, people would not believe that you are ash' ari as your sheikh is Ibn Taymiyya!!”
[end quote]
Another interesting snippet of information from the same link provided above where I found the above quote is that apparently Imam al-Subki [RH] mentions in “Tabaqat ash-shafi' iyya” volume 10 page 398 that a condition to teach at the house of hadith “Al-Ashrafiyya” was to be ash' ari in 'aqida and that apparently Imam Ibn Kathir occupied the post of professor at this house of Hadith in the month of Moharam in the year 772H.
Again it would be nice if someone with the original book could confirm the above and post the full text as I have not personally checked the original sources cited.
Anyway, you can draw from the above what conclusions you will.
Sticking with the topic of this thread I hope to post some interesting quotes from Ibn Kathir's tafsir soon, inshaAllah, in this thread.
If anyone notices any problems in the translations then please do inform me so that I can rectify the error.
Disclaimer: The views cited are those of the author - I do not necessarily endorse nor disagree with his views.