Qadi al-Nabhani on Istigatha

After reading the above above post, please spend some time reading this.
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Fatwa Darul Uloom Deoband
Question: 6502
Fatwa 688
Date 19 Aug,2008

"The life of prophet sal allahu alaihi wa sallam in grave, is Hayate Barzakhi” ( Life in Brazakh) , in this life he ( sal allahu alaihi wa sallam) cannot travel ( from one place to another).!"

See Fatwa here

http://www.falaah.co.uk/refutation/wahabi/114-dead-shaykh-coming-to-help-but-prophet-cant-.html

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A simple quetsion to all the Muslims:

In the above post we all have read that Deobandi Maulvi saheb came out of his grave in order to help his follower.

And the above Fatwa states prophet ( sal allahu alayhi wa sallam) cannot travel from his blessed grave.


Is this not showing disrespect to our prophet? ( sal allahu alayhi wa sallam)

Is it not elavting their scholars above our prophet ? ( sal allahu alayhi wa sallam)

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1.Ismail Dehlawi showed disrespect to prophet( sal allahu alayhi wa sallam)

2. Rashid Gangohi showed disrespect to prophet.

3. Khalil Ambethvi showed disrespect to prophet.

4. Qasim Nantvi showed disrespect to prophet.

5. Ashraf Ali Thanvi showed disrespect to prophet.

6. Abdal Shakoor al deobandi showed disrespect to prophet.

7.Manzoor nomani showed disrespect to prophet.

The list is so long. And now this fatwa from deoband has proved that these people are bent on showing disrespect to prophet ( sal allahu alayhi wa sallam).


Please take caution in selecting and reading islamic literature published by these people.
 
then what do they teach their students on the sharh of the qaseedah burdah taught at darul uloom deoband, when they run into these lines?

Ya akramal khalqi maali man aloo dhubihi
Siwaaka 'inda hululil haadithil amaami

they're quite big on the burdah supposedly
 
At deoband ( India) they no longer teach/recite qaseedah burdah.

I visit deoband regularly to see what they are doing.

But I have a video clip in which mufti Adam al Kawthari al deobandi is reciting Qaseedah Burdah.
 
interesting... by 'no longer' you mean they taught/recited it in the past?

interestingly, the posterboy for pakistani deobandis, juned jamshed recites verses from the burdah on many tv channels.

these people are like jello - they have no form.

or maybe plasma - the complex 4th state of matter, which has nothing to do with solids, or liquids or gases
 
Ashraf Ali Thanvi al-deobandi did mention about Qassedah Burdah in his Nashrut teeb , which has been fabricated now. It was already mentioned in other thread.

To put it again :

The Official deobandi beleif is :


“ We are not against taking/asking help from the spirits( arwah) of the pious dead prople”
 
A lengthy question was asked to Maulvi Rashid Gangohi regarding a wazifa. The questioner gave many examples from past scholars giving the permissibility of reciting a particular wazifa.

The main question was:
Is it permissible to recite Ya Shaykh Abdal Qadir Jilani Shayn Al Lillah?

Answer

[By Maulvi Rashid Gangohi al-deobandi, Fatwa Rashidiya, p.67-68]

“ ………… If someone recites (this wazifa) thinking that Shaykh (Abdal Qadir Gilani) can change or influence things with his own self power ( mutasarrif bil dhat) or Shaykh is the knower of the unseen from his self power( aalim al ghayb bil dhat) , then he ( the reciter of the wazifa) is a mushrik. And if he recites with this belief that Allahu ta’ala informs (ittila) the Shaykh (Abdal Qadir Gilani) and the Shaykh can full fill the needs ( haajat barar’ai) from the command of Allah ( bi izni hi ta’ala), he will not be a mushrik. …….”
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We know all the Muslims have this belief that only AllaH is the real provider of every need. So it is a grave sin to label Muslims as mushrik.
 
Deoband and Istighatha

1. Imdadullah Muhajir Makki (Rh) was the spiritual guide (murshid) of Maulvi Rashid Gangohi, Maulvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi, Maulvi Qasim Nanotvi and other deobandi scholars.

Imdadullah Muhajir Makki (Rh) writes:

Calling Upon Someone other than Allah

“….Therefore, calling someone from a distance, either for remembrance, desirous of union or anxiety of separation, just like a lover calls his beloved, to give consolation to his heart, is not a sin…… The other sort of calling is where the caller wishes that the called one actually hears the call. In this case, if the caller, through the cleanliness of his heart is seeing the person called spiritually, such a call is permitted. If however, the caller does not see the called one but believes that the called one will receive his message through some means supported by evidence; even then the call is permitted…. From this we get the permission of the Wazifa:" Ya Sheikh Sayed Abdul Qadir Shayn Al Lillah". If anyone considers that the Sheikh can help with the power he possesses of his own, it will be tending towards Shirk. But if the Sheikh is considered as "Wasila" (means) or these words are uttered with an empty mind considering them to carry "Barakats" (blessings), then there is nothing wrong with them...”

[Faisla Haft Masla, p.10 -11, Published by Maktaba Thanvi, Deoband, India]


3. Maulvi Rashid Gangohi writes:

‘’ Tasarrufat and Karmat (power to change things and power to show miracles) of friends of Allah (awliya Allah) is retained by them even after their death. In fact, the station of sainthood (wilayat) is further elevated after their death as has been recorded by Ibn Abdal Barr.

[Tazkirat al Rashid, p.252, by Aashiq Ilahi Merathi]

This is a clear text showing that deobandi elders believed that a dead man can control and influence things even from his grave.

4. Maulvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi writes:
“dastigiree kijiye meray nabi, Kashma kash mein tum hee ho meray nabi”

[Nashr ut Teeb, chapter 21, page 194]

Translation

Help me O Nabi! In times of difficulty you are the one to help me!

Note: This has been deleted from the new fabricated version.

5. Maulvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi writes:

“ ( O ! Prophet) you tell those things which are in our heart, you are the one to help those who are in distress”
[Hayat al muslimeen, p.9]

6. Shah Imdadullah Muhajir Makki (Rh) had a disciple (mureed) whose name was Maulvi Muhammad Ismail. He has written a book called "Karamat-e-Imadadiya"[Miracles of (Haji) Imdadullah ]. This book is published from Kutub Khana Hadi, Deoband.


If the sight is not burdened then read a blood shedding story clashing with the belief of monotheism (Tawheed).

In this very Karamaat-e-Imdadiya it is narrated that a disciple of this very Shah Saheb was travelling by ship and was endangered in a violent rough stormy sea. It was very near to the fierce violent clashing waves to tear its boards into pieces.

Now listen to the incident that occurred thereafter personally from the narrator.

It is written:-

"When he saw that besides death there was no way out then in that hopeless state of condition being alarmed concentrated towards his Peer( spiritual guide) who was “roshan zameer”( could knows the state of the heart) .Which moment can be more than that moment for imdad (help). God is the seer, the hearer and all doer. At that moment the ship was out from danger and all the people were saved.

Here this incident occurred and there the next day Makhdoom Jahan said to his servant, press my back it is very painful. The servant while pressing his back, when he lifted his robe saw that it was bruise and that from most part of the back the skin had been peeled. He asked, what is this and why is the back bruised? He said “nothing”. It was asked again. He remained silent. He asked again for the third time “Hazrat it has been abraded somewhere and you did not even go anywhere”. He said a ship was sinking. In it was your religious brother whose bewailing made me restless that I lifted the ship, supporting it on my back and went forward with it until the servants of lord were saved. It must have got bruised with it and for that reason it is paining. It must not be mentioned."
(Karamaat-e-Imdadiyah Page 18)


Source:http://www.falaah.co.uk/refutation/wahabi/189-deoband-and-istighatha.html
 
Imam Tahir al Patni (Rh) [died 986 AH] also used to practice Istighatha. He made a dua ( supplication ) for the emperor Jalaluddin Akbar using the names of sahaba ( rd) and the awliya. I have recently located a rare manuscript of this.

Please note Imam Tahir al Patni (Rh) also showed his happiness and importance to the month of rabi al awwal . The scan can be seen here:

http://www.falaah.co.uk/books/info-about-books/179-allama-tahir-al-patni.html

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Other scholars of recent time who supported Istighatha

1. Imam Abdul Haq Muhaddith al dehlawi al hanafi Rh [d. 1052 AH] (akhbarul akhyar)

2. Shah Waliullah muhaddith al dehlawi al naqshbandi al hanafi Rh [d. 1176 AH] ( al intibah fi salasil awliya allah)

3. Shah Abdul Aziz muhaddith al dehlawi al hanafi Rh [ d.1238 AH]

4. Imam Abid al Sindi al Hanafi Rh [d.1257 AH] (Hawla al-Tawassul wal Istighatha) ( I have a manuscript copy of this)

5. Imam Zahid al Kawthari al Hanafi [ d.1391 AH] (Mahq al Taqawwul fi Mas'alat al Tawassul )

6. The Jurist (faqih) Shaykh Wahabi Ibn Sulayman Ibn Ghawji al Hanafi ( Born 1343 AH).He has written marginalia to the above works ( 4 and 5)

http://www.livingislam.org/k/swgb_e.html
 
sunnistudent said:
A lengthy question was asked to Maulvi Rashid Gangohi regarding a wazifa. The questioner gave many examples from past scholars giving the permissibility of reciting a particular wazifa.

The main question was:
Is it permissible to recite Ya Shaykh Abdal Qadir Jilani Shayn Al Lillah?

Answer

[By Maulvi Rashid Gangohi al-deobandi, Fatwa Rashidiya, p.67-68]

“ ………… If someone recites (this wazifa) thinking that Shaykh (Abdal Qadir Gilani) can change or influence things with his own self power ( mutasarrif bil dhat) or Shaykh is the knower of the unseen from his self power( aalim al ghayb bil dhat) , then he ( the reciter of the wazifa) is a mushrik. And if he recites with this belief that Allahu ta’ala informs (ittila) the Shaykh (Abdal Qadir Gilani) and the Shaykh can full fill the needs ( haajat barar’ai) from the command of Allah ( bi izni hi ta’ala), he will not be a mushrik. …….”
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We know all the Muslims have this belief that only AllaH is the real provider of every need. So it is a grave sin to label Muslims as mushrik.
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salam
any chance of a scan of the whole fatwa?
 
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