An advert for the post of Imam of the Grand Mosque in Istanbul in 16th century

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Imam of the Grand Mosque in Istanbul

A advert for the position of Imam of the Grand Mosque in Istanbul at the time of Sultan Suleyman who ruled the Ottoman Empire from 1520 - 1566.
  1. To have mastered the languages of Arabic, Latin, Turkish and Persian.
  2. To have mastered the Qur’an, the bible and the torah.
  3. To be a scholar in Shari’ah and Fiqh.
  4. To have mastered physics and mathematics up to teaching standard.
  5. To be a master of chivalry, archery, duelling and the arts of Jihad.
  6. To be of a handsome countenance.
  7. To have a strong melodious voice.
translation from Emel (October 2005 issue)


(Emel is an Islamic magazine)


If we replace Latin with English and number 5 with chivalry plus martial arts it would be ideal for today also. It shows the high standard in those days. I don't think many of the alims of today can match these qualifications!!!
 
i wonder what the qualifications were for the imams of the local mosques. surely, they wouldn't have been as stringent?
 
i agree sidi but i'd imagine the status of the Grand Mosque's Imam would be akin to something like the official Shaykh ul Islam or the Minister for Religious Affairs.
 
i wonder how one applied
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that's interesting because back in the day, i don't know if scholars actually applied for posts. i reckon it was a case of don't come to us, we'll come to you. and even then, i feel they were reluctant to accept. i remember reading about imam abu hanifa declining the post of qadi but that was really back in the day. it would be interesting to know more about the process.
 
Don't forget, the Ottomans had the world's most advanced mapping technology, far ahead of any European country until the 19th century.

They were an educated, advanced, nation that excelled in the 'uloom al-kiyafa

This is a SLAP on the face of the foolish secularists in Turkey. May Allah shut their mouths and banish them from Turkey. Long have I heard their rant of the Ottomans being a 'backward' social group from the 'dark ages'.

You dirty secularists in Turkey, you actually lie to the whole world so that you could keep your women running around naked on the streets of Istanbul and Izmir because you call that modernity?

Don't worry, another earthquake is coming to Turkey.
 
Wadood said:
Don't worry, another earthquake is coming to Turkey.
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la hawla wa la quwwat....

Why would seeing thousands of innocent human beings perish in a quake make you happy? And how do you know the last one was because Turkish women 'run around naked'? Why do you have to bring politics into every thread?

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Sidi Aqdas,
This sounds like a government appointment so I'm sure there must have been some process.
 
naqshbandijamaati said:
la hawla wa la quwwat....

Why would seeing thousands of innocent human beings perish in a quake make you happy? And how do you know the last one was because Turkish women 'run around naked'? Why do you have to bring politics into every thread?
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You see, you have caught yourself in a trap Sidi Asif. I will explain dont worry.
It is quite surprising. I have been seeing your posts for the past 5 years now, and honestly, I do not see much of a difference.

I dont know where you got the word 'happy' from. Who would be 'happy' and for what exactly? I also don't know which politics you are talking about. Earthquake in the sense of a spiritual revolution in Turkey that you yourself want, not the physical shaking of the ground. The last earthquake was the revolution of Fethullah Gulen, which by the way is still there.

But for all of this to get into your head, you would not need an closed mind, Sidi Asif.

Who said that the last 'ground-shaking earthquake' was because of Turkish women running around naked in the streets? Did I imply that? Nope. If you ask the common religious Turk on the street, lets say in Bursa, then he WILL, quite strongly, tell you the 'real reasons' behind the last major earthquake that hit an entire belt of Turkey.

As for women running around naked on the streets, well, I hope you visited Istanbul, and Izmir this summer to see the shamelessness. I asked one of the Turks, that these acts are shameful in an Islamic country, the country of the Ottomans, and he replied, 'Ottomans! Those dark aged people'
 
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